Bridgestone or Yokohama?

[Troy]

Which is better mga sir?

[red-mosquito]

I used to have a Yokohama for my Vios til yesterday after I saw a huge puncture sa right rear tire ko... To my experience on Vios XX mejo hirap sa hatak un auto maybe sa hangin or alignment ng gulong... I heard Bridgestone are good maganda daw mag degrade (syempre depending on the driving style) .. try mo din po Dunlop SP Sport inflated with nitro ok din ang performance hindi hirap sa hatak un sasakyan

[Troy]

I used to have a Yokohama for my Vios til yesterday after I saw a huge puncture sa right rear tire ko... To my experience on Vios XX mejo hirap sa hatak un auto maybe sa hangin or alignment ng gulong... I heard Bridgestone are good maganda daw mag degrade (syempre depending on the driving style) .. try mo din po Dunlop SP Sport inflated with nitro ok din ang performance hindi hirap sa hatak un sasakyan

Aww that's bad. I think i'll just stick to my stock tires which is a bridgestone.
My question is tatagal kaya ng 10k kms. yung stock tires ko? Or more than pa? Thanks sir!

[neotech93]

I don't really know if this is a fair comparison or not. But I'll tell you my story anyway.

The Fortuner's fitted with stock Bridgestones and they've lasted pretty well. It was 4 years old so you could already notice through the tread that it needed replacement soon, but not that urgent. I noticed a puncture a few days later on the front right. I brought it to Bridgestone for a vulcanize but they said it needed replacement already because it could blow up on my way home. This is actually in contrast to my Terrano's Michelin. It's tread has been pretty thin for a while now and after it got punctured (my fault for driving in certain places) I had in vulcanized and the shop said they wouldn't blow up. [I regularly check pressure btw]

Now for my Yoko's. I have them on my Miata and I've had them for about 6 years now (weekend warrior) - Neova AD07s. Not a single problem ever. I still have about 85% tread left (my own estimate). No punctures, pressure stays constant, excellent grip (1-2psi drop after massive temperature changes which is normal) etc...

Personally, my own experience dictates that I go with either Michelin or Yokohama from now on.

P.S.
I've already tried BFGoodrich, Continental, Pirelli, Goodyear, Nitto and Toyo. Continental is great (especially the DWS) but of all I've tried, I've loved Michelin and Yokohama the most.

Hope this helps

[Troy]

I don't really know if this is a fair comparison or not. But I'll tell you my story anyway.

The Fortuner's fitted with stock Bridgestones and they've lasted pretty well. It was 4 years old so you could already notice through the tread that it needed replacement soon, but not that urgent. I noticed a puncture a few days later on the front right. I brought it to Bridgestone for a vulcanize but they said it needed replacement already because it could blow up on my way home. This is actually in contrast to my Terrano's Michelin. It's tread has been pretty thin for a while now and after it got punctured (my fault for driving in certain places) I had in vulcanized and the shop said they wouldn't blow up. [I regularly check pressure btw]

Now for my Yoko's. I have them on my Miata and I've had them for about 6 years now (weekend warrior) - Neova AD07s. Not a single problem ever. I still have about 85% tread left (my own estimate). No punctures, pressure stays constant, excellent grip (1-2psi drop after massive temperature changes which is normal) etc...

Personally, my own experience dictates that I go with either Michelin or Yokohama from now on.

P.S.
I've already tried BFGoodrich, Continental, Pirelli, Goodyear, Nitto and Toyo. Continental is great (especially the DWS) but of all I've tried, I've loved Michelin and Yokohama the most.

Hope this helps

Thanks for the information sir.
Grabe napakadame nyo na pong na try na tires. O.o
Totoo pala talagang one of the best ang michelin at yokohama. Kase karamihan din ata ng mga F1 cars yun ang gulong e?
One more question sir, pano mo malalaman yung thread life ng gulong mo? Thanks!

[neotech93]

Yup. marami na talaga akong nasubukang tires. Yung iba 'di lang experience ko. Kasama na rin dyan yung sa dad ko. Sa F1 Pirelli gamit nila ngayon. Bridgestone bago yun, tapos Michelin noong mga 2000 (not sure) basta Michael Schumacher era. Yokohama ata gamit ng WTCC. Michelin mahal talaga pero yung performance worth it.
e.g. Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 > Yokohama Neova Advan AD07. Pero dun ako sa Yoko kasi personally 90% performance ng Michelin ang makukuha sa Yoko pero yung presyo definitely mas mura. Kung 'di problema pera, Michelin talaga, pero kung best "bang for your buck performance" dun ako sa Yoko.

Sa tread life, piso (Php1 coin) lang gamit ko. Linalagay ko sa tread tapos tinitingnan ko kung gaano kababaw o kalalim yung tread. Mas maraming wear, mas mababaw. 

[17Sphynx17]

for me, i think we've tried only bridgestone, yokohama, goodyear and now federal tires.

We're only recently just tried the federal tires so I can't comment yet but they are definitely cheaper than goodyear plus the savings on balancing and alignment.

my experience is only on regular use so these are not pertaining to performance/sport tires or offroad tires.

Most of our tires last a good 30k-40k kms and run a good 4 years, give or take a few months. After that, they would need replacement. Most of them have "bald spots" already which require their replacement.

But noticing the tires now, I find that after a good 4 year run, they seem to significantly lose their elasticity anyway. My example was with our stock Innova tires (yokohoma I think).

I haven't replaced them during that time, and it was about 3+ years already of owning the vehicle. There was no bulging nor were the tires overinflated. I was just parking the car near the curb and I accidentally swiped the left tire sidewall against the curb. My tire blew up.

Honda City (yokohama stock tires), I just had them replaced because I felt they were worn out on one side because of poor alignment. One side looked good still but I changed both nonetheless. After removing both tires, I inspected both tires to check which one could be a reserve tire in the trunk. I was surprised to find that both tires actually had cracks on them already.

For goodyears, well, as with all other users here, nothing really special about them and sometimes, I'm not really happy with them. So I used federal tires for now for two vehicles.

Hope that would be a good investment already.

My math for the honda city stock tires as (175/65r14)

Goodyear - 2920 or 3320 per tire, plus alignment cost of 400-1400php (depending on severity)
Federal - 2400 only, free alignment.

Balancing did not exceed 100php for the wheel weights when they did it. Balancing itself was free excluding the weights which is added cost.

For the Revo it was (185 R14 - cargo)

Goodyear - 3800 per tire plus alignment cost of 400-1400php (Depending on severity)
Continental and Yokohama - 3900-4250php plus alignment (forgot the exact figures from tireboy)
Federal - 3500 per tire, free alignment

Had these federal tires bought and installed in payless car care center which is the distributor of the federal tires to the best of my knowledge so maybe the price was slightly lower there compared to outside payless car care center.

Hope that helps you guys as well in canvassing.

[neotech93]

Woah. It seems that you have a very bad experience with regards to Yokos. I never knew Yokos in that class would do those. Cost-cutting perhaps on the lower models? Truth be told, I've only used BFGoodrich, Pirelli and GoodYear for the everyday cars. The BFGoodrich did the same thing that happened to your Innova sir. They just blew up. For me it was in the old Sentra. I was driving on a street that was filled with potholes then all of a sudden my front-left blew up. I can second what you said about GoodYear, nothing really special. Then Pirellis, nothing much, just paying for the name. But it was a pretty solid set of tyres. But I have to say, there are a lot of tyres that could match Pirelli quality at a much cheaper price.

[17Sphynx17]

Yep. I don't really subscribe much to paying for "premium tires" though because it is not how we use our vehicles nor our driving style. We rarely travel in speeds of 80kph to 100kph so it defeats the purpose for my family. Just "regular" tires would be ok. So a cost effective solution is our direction. =)

Basically, since it is our first time using the Federal Tires. I would assume we had saved at least 1000php per tire already as long as it last around 3-4 years or 30k-40k kms. We average around 10k kms per vehicle per year for some reason. hehe! (unless for special circumstances)

[17Sphynx17]

My problem with tires nowadays is they seem to lose their elasticity quicker compared to the past. I don't know why but it seems to be the case, regardless or how much wear the tires has experienced.

Sometimes, I feel like asking the SA of the dealer to inquire about the Manufacturing date of the tire installed in the car that will be delivered. I kind of feel that also has a bearing. Because tires also have shelf lives.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3088188/ns/nbcnightlynews/t/can-tires-get-weaker-theyget-older/#.T9hubrVzWY0

http://www.wisebread.com/are-your-new-tires-really-6-year-old-ticking-time-bombs

I think this would be a useful read to start with.

I don't mean to scare people though. Just sharing as I can relate to it after my experience.

[neotech93]

I don't mean to scare people though. Just sharing as I can relate to it after my experience.

This is exactly why we participate in the forums sir  We all want to learn more about cars (not just ours) so that we can apply what we've learned in our own rides. Hence, our decision making is "smarter" or more informed as compared to non-car enthusiasts. Being an informed consumer is always a great thing.