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Jesus Erle Sebastian's "Menaces on Two wheels"
« on: May 15, 2006, 02:05:41 pm »

THOSE MENACES ON TWO WHEELS
by Jesus Erle Sebastian

Let me get this off my sagging chest. I hate bike riders. Come to think of it, hate doesn't really describe what i think of those menaces on two-wheels. They violate all traffic laws known to man. They weave in and out of lanes, at times going against the flow of traffic. They are all color blind-they can't distinguish red from green or yellow.

They think nothing of riding on the sidewalk, the gutter or street iuslan if they can't squeeze though vehicles on the road. They park anywhere they can chain bikes to a pole or fence. They are noisy, especially those with modifie mufflers.

Why do I deplore them? Maybe because they get away with it. Police and those so-calle traffic enforcers ignore bike riders' flagrant violations of traffic laws. As if being on two wheels exempts riders from regulations meant to establish order and safety on the streets.

It doesn't matter whether they are riding on puny scooters with 50cc engines made in China or those 1,000cc-plus Ducatis or harleys. Cops just wave them by as they beat red lights.

Okay, envy may also come into it. Especially when you see them going past traffic gridlock with gorgeous babes in tight pants and tiny tops clinging to them. What's this attraction for men with power trains-no matter how big or tiny-between their legs?

What I hate most is that their numbers are rising every day, exponentially. Honda philippines is building a bigger facility capablke of building more than a million bikes this year in Laguna. Other Japanese brands are moving in the same direction. And then there are the made-in-China rip-offs that are sold on every other street corner in urban areas from Aparri to Jolo. And don't you just hate those dirty, ugly bike repair shops sprouting like sari-sari stores in every barangay?

I can understand the growing popularity of the motorbike. They're cheap to own, use and maintain in thise days of spiraling fuel prices. They give the minimum wage earners the mobility of the middle-class car-owning folk at a time when even bus and jeepney fares are becoming prohibitive. Even car owners are turing to the motorbike as their daily ride to work and relegating their four-wheeled conveyances for family weekend outings to church, the mall, or countryside jaunts.

But does every other biker have to form clubs? Bike clubs are infesting the streets, from small barkadas bonded by the smell of fumes and grease between their legs to large groups of scooter-riding Hell's Angels wannabes with their faux leather vests and helmets bought from street-corner hawkers.

Don't you just hate it when you hear the roar of big bike engines chasing you on the highway on weekends, and then get overtaken by a horde of scooters with mufflers modified to soundd like Ducastis? Or being forced to brake hard to save the life of some stupid bike dragster on dark nights on Diosdado Macapagal Boulevard?

I realize that the allure of the bike is more than just the economy of using it. Motorbikes have always been associated with the Born to be Wild stuff ever since Marlon Brandon starred in the biker film back in the days when movies were in black and white.

But please, we can't all look like peter Fonda or even dream of being like Valentino Rossi, especially not drovong around in a 125cc faux Honda with the racing handle bars andd stainless steel mufflers. Okay, you can dream, but don't think that a bike is an excuse to break traffic laws or to endanger the lives of other motorists on the road. We already have a lot of dangerous-because they are ignorant or just plan reckless and irresponsible-drivers using four-wheeled vehicles.

I ashamed to admit it but I sometimes feel a twinge of enjoyment reading about bike riders getting creamed in accidents-not killed, mind you, just injured, preferably with a broken bone or two so they will be off the streets an not be a danger to others for a couple of months.

I usually take the side of the commuter who opens the oor of an FX shuttle and snags a bike rider speeding on the gutter side of the street, or on the sidewalk where they shouln't be at all.

If bikers have to form clubs, then it should be to organize legal races on proper racetracks or closed-off street circuits if they are into racing, or to espouse road safety and proper riding habits if they are more of social clubs.

Otherwise, I dread the day when Honda's prediction-that the Philippines will become a multi-million motorbike market a year-comes true. In the future, I fear I may be doing some snaggin myself-wittingly or not.


I believe the article of Jesus Erle Sebastian; "Menaces on Two Wheels" is total crap! How could the editor of a magazine portraying itself to be the top motoring magazine in the Philippines allows such an un-researched piece of garbage to be published. Gee, and you have a motorcycle section as well. You might want to think about scrapping out that whole portion as I am sure no self respecting motorcyclist will purchase your magazine after such an article.

I am an avid motorcycle racer, one of the internet editor’s of the motorcycle website motorcycleasia.com and a car lover to boot. I appreciate any motorized vehicle with wheels and a motor. My momma always used to tell me, if you have nothing nice to say, keep your mouth shut.

He talks about how he hates motorcycle riders because they violate all traffic laws known to man.....does he have actually statistics for this or is he just shooting from his hip? Is his only basis being what he sees on the road? Well, he must have seen a hell of a lot of motorcycles breaking the law to generalize about 500,000 motorcyclists on the road.....That was the total sales of the motorcycle market.... of the last year alone....... Beating the red light, loud exhausts, going against the flow of traffic, is this limited to motorcycle riders alone? What about the car I saw just this morning beating the red light, or the Honda Civic I saw a couple of weeks ago with a straight through exhaust and a subwoofer that would shame any disco or the taxi driver I saw a week ago going the wrong way on a one way street.

He talks about how he hates motorcyclists because our numbers are growing exponentially. With fuel prices steadily rising and the global oil market not showing any signs of improving, what are the common people to do? Walk to work? Maybe Mr. Sebastian can provide a better; more efficient way……We await your solution O-Enlightened-One. Did you know, it is actually cheaper to purchase a motorcycle on financing then pay for “pamasahe” everyday? Motorcycles are affordable, more efficient, more affordable to maintain and definitely more environment friendly than any car locally available in the market.

He talks about how he hates how every motorcycle rider has to join clubs…..haven’t you noticed a similar trend among people who are passionate about their hobbies? From mountain bikers to paintball warriors to book clubs to alas even car fanatics……and what is so hateful about committed people being brought together by their passions? Are you not one of them as well Mr. Sebastian?

Then you go on about how you hate how motorcyclists emulate their racing heroes. Why if I got a peso for every car fanatic who thought he drove like Michael Schumacher on EDSA, I’d be out on the race track everyday not worrying about finances and just doing what I love doing. Didn’t you know that Valentino Rossi started his racing career racing mini-motos? 50cc two stroke miniature racing bikes 2 feet long and half a foot high…..Emulating our racing icons is not just limited to motorcycle riders, sir. I see rice-boy wannabe racers drag racing each other almost every weekend on Libis and/or Temple drive. Why they even stop traffic at the stop lights of Libis just so they can make their runs. And where are the cops in all this? Often times the wannabe car racers fathers are high up in politics or are rich beyond our wildest dreams and throw their weight and money around. How’s that for responsible law abiding citizens?

Mr. Sebastian, you might as well consider seeing a Psychiatrist because drawing pleasure from someone else’s misfortune is something that I believe is not healthy. I’m no doctor, but I think you are out of order.

The motorcycle industry today is growing exponentially, and as the numbers of the vehicles on the road increase accidents are bound to happen. The only route to take to make the road a better place for all of us cars and motorcycles is education, stricter licensing and stronger law enforcement. I am in no way protecting irresponsible riders or drivers out there on the road today. However, I believe instead of public announcing, generalizing and berating motorcycle riders why not do something more constructive. Until such time that we are able to achieve these goals of better education for riders and drivers alike, stricter licensing and stronger law enforcement why not just do your part to make it better for everyone rather than sounding off about how you hate things. If you truly hate things so much, what have you done lately to improve the situation?

John Diego
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Re: Jesus Erle Sebastian's "Menaces on Two wheels"
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2006, 09:38:15 pm »

       I totally agree with you John.  I certainly believe that  99.9% of Topgear Phils readers follow your sense too.  This is because Topgear readers are responsible readers who respect other fellow motorists and enthusiasts regardless of how many wheels their rides may have.  You also hit the nail right on the head when pointing out to our newly appointed EIC Vernon Sarne that such garbage was allowed to roar out on his 2nd(!) issue; not really a smart way to gain points from us followers.
        Mr. Sebastian has effectively hurt the innocent bike riders on a grand scale especially that he has specifically branded "all" riders whether driving a moped all the way to a grand Harley.  This is simply not true :(.  All types of vehicles plying our roads have issues, so why single out the economical motorbike?
          As a loyal reader of TopGear Phil, I sincerely respect these two wheelers for they are also a product of motoring evolution that is undeniably one of the basis why Topgear exists.  And as a responsible reader, I must also caution Mr. Sarne if this is the way he chooses to run this superb magazine in the coming months.  Caution because articles like these will ruin the respect from us followers that has been painstakingly established even from the very first issue not so long ago. 
          I know that our new EIC is doing his best and with the way he presents himself in his editorials, he certainly means business.  I just wish that he would loose the shades, I mean why hide behind it when he wants to see us eye to eye?
          How about it Vernon? ;)
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Re: Jesus Erle Sebastian's "Menaces on Two wheels"
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2006, 10:27:06 pm »

John,

very well sait and put -- with the matching statistics to boot (unlike Mr. Sebastian's article)
I'm assuming Erle, you must have had so much bad experiences with bike riders...but to generalize is indeed out of order.

Its sad that the publication has a motorcycle column -- which doesn't make sense given this recent article.

Or perhaps they assume that there is no overlapping of bikers and cagers....not bikers are but a minority and that all cage drivers will relate to the article.

I was enjoying this issue last Friday evening until I came to the last page --- which ruined the rainy, windy evening for me. Having no email that night, I just had to send an SMS to one of the publication's photographers to vent out my disgust on a one tracked article.

The article in fairness, did manage to salvage a few good points in motorcycle riding (maintenance, fuel, etc.) -- but it was just a springboard for the writer to catch his breath and bash out again against bikers.

The Filipino is a highly social creature hence, the need to commune with others, especially those with common goals. So don't get pissed off with motorcycle clubs. Who are we to dictate when cliubs can be formed? To lambast motorcycle shops sprouting like sari-sari stores is very pretentious. You hate them because they are such an ugly site?

You guys, under a new editor, as Jake mentioned are trying your best to make this publication a great one...but this article should serve as an eye opener.

Your publication should unite the motoring community, not divide it.
Balance your articles in content.

And be ready to back it up also with stats....

and if you need to get such stats, log on to motorcyclephilippines.com and motorcycleasia.com

At any point, we wish top gear all the best!


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Re: Jesus Erle Sebastian's "Menaces on Two wheels"
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2006, 01:33:01 pm »

Mr. Sebastian, do take the time to get your facts straight and true before coming up with an article about motorcycles. Don't try to paint a generalized picture of the riding community based on your personal biases, bigotry and bad experiences. It really leaves a bad taste in the mouth for us viewers and readers of Top Gear (especially riders like myself). And yes, I do drive too. Been driving for 15 years until about 6 years ago... when I discovered the joys of riding. now I only drive when I need to. Otherwise, the motorbike is so much more sane.

And yes... do try to visit motorcycle sites like http://www.motorcyclephilippines.com/index.php
http://www.motorsiklo.com
and http://www.motorcycleasia.com/ 

You might learn a thing or two about the riding community you hate and abhore so much.

PS
Your last comment... "In the future, I fear I may be doing some snaggin myself-wittingly or not." Now, now Mr. Sebastian... this shows your true color doesn't it? An uncouth driver, with irresponsible tendencies, hiding behind the cloak of a law-abiding citizen and car guru.

With this one single article of yours, all your wonderful articles in publications such as Top Gear and the Manila Bulletin come to nothing. In other words, you have lost your credibility as far as the riding community is concerned. And this riding community does include a sizable driving community as well.

So give yourself a break. Get a motorbike. You just might enjoy it.
 
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« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2006, 10:39:11 pm »

wow -- 2 threads on this.  8)

Erle - still quiet???

Vern here is sticking up to you with all sorts of things that you are entitled to your opinion and that your such a nice guy and all.... this is your turf, i'm sure it took you the whole of 5 minutes to write that well thought off piece about  john, jake, mashimaro, randy and moi ---

BTW Migs Ripoll at your service  ;) i could be emailed too.... migsripoll@yahoo.com  --- part founder of motorcycleasia.com , wannabe racer (will race anything with 2 wheels) , Vitara fan (best mini-SUV for me, my family ride), MR2 fan (prefer cruising on my MR2 take my wife on dates on this car), and for my daily ride for work and hauling my bikes to the race track my nissan Frontier.

Das me Erle, serioulsy bro, love to know what made you react so badly against us. you perhaps nearly smashed into one of us in macapagal hi-way? no worries -- we appreciate your braking skills!

I mean this in a nice way and a constructive way and (everyone) keep an open mind, a day each of us bikers reacting to your article here - and what it really is like on our perspective on the sadlle in our Philippine roads.

That is if your up to the challenge or for some adventure???  we aint all that bad or the menace you think we are. we are flesh and blood just like you, we share your experiences as a car driver here as well.

You know what --- if your sort of gave some time (i guess the deadline kinda pressured you to come up with material) you could have wrote that more objectively. But the opening intro just kinda put your piece straight into the bin for me - be more positive (its always safe to be on the positive) criticize with tact and aim for an objective with firm facts to back your story or opinion to make it credible for your readers.........ok i'll stop the lecture, what do i know about writing columns anyway.

Would love to see you respond though.  ;)




 

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« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2006, 11:20:55 pm »

Mr. Vernon Sarne,

I believe it is within reason that a printed apology is in order by Mr. Sebastian in your next issue. An apology to the biking community and to your own TG fan base for such a horrible article. The hasty generalizations that Mr. Sebastian came up with i believe has done its damage.

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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2006, 01:22:12 am »

                 I know that our new EIC is doing his best and with the way he presents himself in his editorials, he certainly means business.  I just wish that he would loose the shades, I mean why hide behind it when he wants to see us eye to eye?
          How about it Vernon? ;)


Yup, agree jake...i think your editor's photo should just drop the shades. In revealing yourself, you become more personal, more approachable to us, its a better image I believe for the mag. Have my buddy Lucky Besa take another photo =) brings a warmer feel to the mag.
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« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2006, 08:09:06 am »

I guess the Editor in Chief is trying to look "cool" but unfortunately he simply gets to look like he is hiding his identity from the angry readers of Top Gear Philippines.  Given the Nexus incident, etc and his magazine track record even before TG-Phil, maybe he should hide his true identity.
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« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2006, 12:48:55 pm »

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« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2006, 04:10:21 pm »

OMG

Was the guy high or what?  I have been a biker since I was able to obtain a license, and have been raised by a family of bikers.  Although I love cars and my main business is in the car industry, my personal preference in commuting around the philippines with such heavy traffic is still on two wheels.  I was aghast when I read this article.  First to make things clear, I love the show! Jeremy Clarkson' irreverant way of speaking his mind with his dry humor is funny to say the least.  The magazine though?  It's IMO is a sellout.  It goes nowhere near the show.  Maybe you guys try, but you have a far ways to go folks.

Back to the topic at hand.  Let me say this again. OMG!!!  I can't believe how irresponsible it is for the author to say such words as " sometimes feel a twinge of enjoyment reading about bike riders getting creamed in accidents-not killed, mind you, just injured, preferably with a broken bone or two so they will be off the streets an not be a danger to others for a couple of months.


In all my life of riding on the streets, I have had only two major accidents.  Both of which where caused by cars.  One was while riding on a main road, a car coming out from a side street decided he had the right of way (which he obviously didn't, but probably figured I'd stop since i was only a motorcycle).  I stopped short of hitting him, but lowsided my bike (bike went out from under me).  The person of course didn't stop but went on his merry way.  Oh what joy!

The other was a taxi cab who on the second lane from the left decided that turn signals where optional.  And hit me right smack on my rear.

These are just a few examples and I have tons more of near misses by cars who consider us motorcycle riders as second class citizens, and what does this article do?  It just enforces the idea that we are!  By god man use your senses!

I hope and pray for you Mr. Sebastian, I also pray that the majority of Filipino 4-wheel drivers don't think the way you do.  Such travesty to be living in a country if this were the case.

On a lighter note.  Have you car drivers ever notice that a lot of times when bikers see each other on the road, especially on out of town rides we wave to each other?  It is a sign of our cammaraderie, the acknowlegment that "yes you are a biker and so am I, thus we are brothers".  Or have you ever seen a bike stalled on the road and see that other bikers stop to help?  I have never heard of this kind of culture in car drivers.  But as bikers we experience it all the time.  Moral of the story is, we're people too.
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« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2006, 06:37:46 pm »


Dear Friends:

I would like to personally apologize for whatever anguish Mr Sebastian’s column has caused all of you. I will devote my editor’s note in our July 2006 issue to this matter. In the meantime, I would like to reiterate what I’ve already told some of your fellow bikers:

Erle’s kind of writing is really satirical. It’s not designed to be as serious as Time magazine. Of course, we can argue all day about whether he is effectively funny or whether his points are valid. At the end of the day, however, it is one motoring journalist’s opinion. We may not agree with him but that’s his opinion. Same way that you have yours, which, by the way, I promise to publish.

For whatever it's worth, please know that Mr Sebastian doesn't really hate bikers. Two of his closest friends--Aris Ilagan of Manila Bulletin and Brian Afuang of the Manila Times--are both avid motorcyclists. Again, the piece was satirical. I apologize if it didn't come across as such.

I can’t blame many people for detesting some bikers because the latter really pose a serious threat on the road. I should know—I’ve lost count of the number of times I almost hit a scooter all because the rider had no concept of mortality. Yes, of course, there are also many responsible, knowledgeable bikers out there—and I believe you’re among them—but the column doesn’t speak to your group. It does to the irresponsible ones.

If it’s of any significance, I would like to assure you that Erle is a good person. He is by far the most honest, most kind journalist I have ever met in all my professional life—and I’ve met the best of them.

We at Top Gear do not look down on bikers. In fact, we even have our own Motorbikes Editor in Les Croyston. But we do not have to all agree on everything, do we? Because then, we'd all be brainless columnists and writers.

Sir, the nice thing about that column is that attention is now being drawn toward irresponsible bike-riding. I know, because I just had several meaningful discussions with key people in the industry and traffic management agencies. You may not like how it was written, but at least, many people are now talking about it. Isn't that the purpose of journalism--to make people think and question?

Again, my personal apologies if the column turned you off. It wasn’t the desired effect. Thank you for reading and God bless you all.

Sincerely,
Vernon B. Sarne
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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2006, 07:12:40 pm »

this is the e-mail that Mr Sarne sent me last Mon. May 15, 2006

Dear Sir:

As editor of Top Gear, I take full responsibility for all the things you raised in your letter. I would like to apologize if Mr Sebastian's column offended your sensibilities as a biker, but know also that Erle¹s kind of writing is really satirical. It¹s not designed to be as serious as Time magazine. Of course, we can argue all day about whether he is effectively funny or whether his points are valid. At the end of the day, however, it is one motoring journalist¹s opinion. We may not agree with him but that¹s his opinion. Same way that you have yours, which, by the way, I promise to publish.

Truth to tell, I¹m not a big fan of bikes either. And I can¹t blame many people for detesting them because many bike riders really pose a serious threat on the road. I should know‹I¹ve lost count of the number of times I almost hit a scooter all because the rider had no concept of mortality. Yes, of course, there are also many responsible, knowledgeable bikers out there‹and I believe you¹re one of them‹but the column doesn¹t speak to your group. It does to the irresponsible ones.

If it¹s of any significance, I would like to assure you that Erle is a good person. He is by far the most honest, most kind journalist I have ever met in all my professional life‹and I¹ve met the best of them.

We at Top Gear do not look down on bikers. In fact, we even have our own Motorbikes Editor in Les Croyston. But we do not have to all agree on everything, do we? Because then, we'd all be brainless columnists and writers.

Sir, the nice thing about that column is that attention is now being drawn toward irresponsible bike-riding. You may not like how it was written, but at least, many people are now talking about it. Isn't that the purpose of journalism--to make people think and question? True, there are other ways to improve the situation, but we are not the LTFRB or the LTO. We're an automotive publication, and we'll always do what we do best--and that is to write what we believe is true and honest.

Again, my personal apologies if the column turned you off. It wasn¹t the desired effect. Thank you for reading and God bless.

Vernon B. Sarne


to which i responded:

Dear Mr. Sarne,

Thank you very much for your response. I appreciate the timeliness and the apology that you have offered and I totally agree that we need not agree on everything. I believe it is part of human nature to be opinionated and hold firm to our own beliefs.

However, the generalization that the author made in his article were and still are uncalled for. There are responsible bikers out there, both on big bikes and smaller bikes but on the flip side I also do agree that there are irresponsible bikers just like there are irresponsible drivers. This does not mean though that the author can take such liberties with his words such as, “They are all color blind-they can't distinguish red from green or yellow.” As the editor you should have suggested to Mr. Sebastian to tone down some of his generalizations. I’m not criticizing the way you do your job sir, I am simply offering some constructive remarks. No malice intended.

I am sorry about your close encounters with motorcyclists you have almost hit because the rider had no concept of his own morality. You are not alone in your close encounters sir as I myself have lost count of the number of time car drivers tried to run me off the road because they felt that motorcycles have no place on the Expressways.

We are not the LTO or the LTFRB but as opinion writers we also do form opinions. As people read our articles, we influence them to think like we do. The opinions we form in our readers are our own opinions magnified. These are the responsibilities we as journalist must adhere to. Imagine if someone read Mr. Sebastian’s article and decided in his own mind that because he hated bikers the way Mr. Sebastian hated bikers it would be ok for him to run down every biker he saw on the street. Just the same way as I publish this article and your responses on our website, if I  did not think responsibly and act in prudence I could cause even more animosity between bikers and drivers by spinning this issue out of control possibly deepening the already abyss like rift between bike riders and cars drivers. We as journalists must do what we do best as you said which is to write what we believe to be true and honest however I must add to that we must write what is true, honest and responsible.

I have no doubt Mr. Erle is a good person. I do doubt however how responsible he is with his opinions.

The article did draw attention, you are right, however do you really think it will make bikers more introspective about the way they ride their bikes on the road?  I bet all this article really did, was flame the anger within bikers who actually spent the time to read the article.

Again, thank you for your response and God Bless you as well sir.

Respectfully,

John Diego


To which he Mr. Sarne responded:

Dear Sir:

I understand where you're coming from. I really do. However, as editor, I would not like to influence what my columnists write in any way, especially if it concerns opinions and beliefs. We operate on trust, and I fully trust every member of my team to be an intelligent, sensible journalist.
Otherwise, I wouldn't have allowed them to be in the Top Gear team in the first place.

If you have been reading Top Gear for quite some time now, you should know that our publication has always been known for the irreverent way its articles and columns are written. Check out Jeremy Clarkson and you have to agree that Erle Sebastian's sarcasm isn't anywhere near Clarkson's.

Honestly, I believe that if it was Jeremy who wrote the same piece, we would just have all shrugged it off. Sometimes, I personally wonder if colonial mentality forces some of us to frown upon Filipino journalists who display the same fiery brand of writing. I truly hope I'm wrong, for it would be a sad, sad reality if I wasn't.

Thank you for your comments. Rest assured that we are not singling out irresponsible bike riders. Continue reading us and chances are that you will come across an article of ours berating bad drivers of four-wheeled motor vehicles.

Sincerely,
Vernon


We await on baited breath for your editornal sir.....
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Re: Jesus Erle Sebastian's "Menaces on Two wheels"
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2006, 07:19:46 pm »


Dear Friends:

For whatever it's worth, please know that Mr Sebastian doesn't really hate bikers. Two of his closest friends--Aris Ilagan of Manila Bulletin and Brian Afuang of the Manila Times--are both avid motorcyclists. Again, the piece was satirical. I apologize if it didn't come across as such.
Again, my personal apologies if the column turned you off. It wasn’t the desired effect. Thank you for reading and God bless you all.

Sincerely,
Vernon B. Sarne



I wonder if Mr. Sebastian's friends have read his article. Particularly, these lines,

"I ashamed to admit it but I sometimes feel a twinge of enjoyment reading about bike riders getting creamed in accidents-not killed, mind you, just injured, preferably with a broken bone or two so they will be off the streets an not be a danger to others for a couple of months.

I usually take the side of the commuter who opens the oor of an FX shuttle and snags a bike rider speeding on the gutter side of the street, or on the sidewalk where they shouln't be at all."

 I wonder how his "friends" would view him after such.....
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Re: Jesus Erle Sebastian's "Menaces on Two wheels"
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2006, 08:51:05 pm »

Satirical in nature perhaps, but Mr. Jesus Erle Sebastian obviously does not have the class to pull it off.

Jeremy Clarkson is refreshingly funny when exercising his ascerbic wit. Read and re-read Mr. Sebastian's column how many times you may like, he just isn't. Please tell the Clarkson wannabe to keep his idea of dry humor to himself, thank you very much.
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Re: Jesus Erle Sebastian's "Menaces on Two wheels"
« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2006, 10:41:11 am »

As I browse through the pages of the magazine, I cant help but read Mr. Sebastian's article. It caught my attention for I am also an avid biker. I have read it over and over again just to make sure that my interpratation was not mistaken. After repeatedly reading the said article, I am convinced that the piece was not well thought of. Even if it is a satirical, opinionated remark, I do believe that caution should always be considered by every journalist. And in this article, I do believe that being cautious was not practiced. The choice of words are poor. The idea was not well thought of. Pardon me Mr. Sebastian for questioning your capability as a writer, but you have brought this issue to yourself. It is very.....very wrong to generalize all bikers as irresponsible no matter what experiences you had encountered with them. And also your remark about snagging riders is really inappropriate. because i dont believe that those thinking constitutes a sound mind. You might need to consult a psychiatrist! I do believe that everybody on TG would not want to be branded as irresponsible journalist just because you have a comrade who is irresponsible right? And I dont think you want to be snagged just to give you a wake up call right?

Why there are reactions about your article? well simply it is a media and you greatly affect readers. What would happen if all the TG readers think that riders are irresponsible and it is just alright to snag them as long as you dont kill them.... I do believe that you as a writer, working for a motoring magazine, should promote camaraderie and not divide the motoring community. But the way I see it, your article simply marginalizes the bikers and brands all of them as irresponsible just because of your bad experiences on some riders.

To the EIC, Please do not make excuses for the guy and your inability to review the pieces submitted. That is why you have that position in the first place! Accept the fact that the material was not reviewed properly and accept the repercussions that will arise. It would be better to have a public apology printed out that should came from the EIC, and also from Mr. Sebastian. We dont want things to aggravate between TG and the biker community here in the philippines right?
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