An appeal from the editors of TopGear.com.ph

An appeal

First of all, allow us to thank you for making TopGear.com.ph a success. To be specific, thank you for making us the No. 1 automotive website in the Philippines. As we write this, our latest analytics numbers tell us that we now have 2.24 million page views and 185,841 unique visitors every month. We cannot solely take credit for this. While we'd like to think that our stories, photographs, videos, blogs, test reviews and user interface are the best in our industry, we also believe that the reason TopGear.com.ph is so popular in the Philippine motoring community is because we have intelligent, fun-loving visitors who enjoy interacting with each other.

We presume that you visit this site because you get something both informative and entertaining out of it. We, the editors and custodians of this site, continue to produce high-quality material precisely because of this. We like that we're able to provide a venue in which sensible car enthusiasts and curious car shoppers can connect. And we strive to stay ahead of everyone else so that you, our visitors and readers, can also stay ahead of your peers.

Lately, however, we've been noticing the prevalence of trolling on the site. Trolling, for the benefit of those not familiar with the term, is the act of posting idiotic comments just to provoke others and incite them to reply. As you can imagine, trolling is a hobby among people who have nothing better to do in the real world.

Our policy on TopGear.com.ph is one of democracy. We believe in the value of treating everyone like responsible adults. But when we keep seeing comments obviously posted by trolls, we can only conclude that these people must be one of the following:

* Little children, pretending to be adults behind their parents' keyboards;

* Adults who live such a boring and pathetic life that they actually get a high from seeing other people reacting to their posts; or

* Individuals who, either for business or personal reasons, wish to bring this website down.

How comical has it become? Let's just say that these trolls even go so far as to create multiple accounts and reply to their own messages in hopes of baiting others to react. We know this, of course, through the IP addresses attached to every comment made. We don't really want to ban IP addresses but we might do it soon, if the problem doesn't abate.

If you're one of the above-mentioned sensible visitors of this site--if you're among those who truly find TopGear.com.ph useful, relevant and fun--we only have one request. That is, to never feed the trolls. You do that every time you reply to their posts. You think you're hurting them by cursing at them? Think again. They're actually enjoying it.

If you want this site to continue being the foremost venue for intelligent and practical discourses on everything automotive, you have to do your part in driving away the unpleasant elements in your midst. Only then can you freely engage each other in a no-nonsense dialogue about cars. Only then can you attract more like-minded souls who share your passion. And only then will car companies recognize you as a collective voice of reason that they need to listen to.

Thank you very much for reading.

 

Sincerely,

TopGear.com.ph editors

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  • jim82592 Apr 23 2012 @ 09:28pm
    This is a wake-up call to everyone. Kudos TGP! :)
    • tandavid31 Apr 25 2012 @ 12:26am
      this is a wake up call for Hyundaibest!
  • carwiki9988 Apr 23 2012 @ 09:29pm
    Sa lahat ng mga pumapatol sa trolls:

    Please, magpakabait kayo. Alam niyo naman yung sinabi ni Sir Vernon na the more you give the troll the attention, the more will he/she provoke you. Pero, hindi niyo naman sinusunod. Kapag nagcomment ang troll, sabay patol kaagad. Kaya nga may comment box to SHARE your OPINIONS to the public. Dito nga nagsimula yung pagkakaibigan namin ni Kyoichi at ni dsobreo eh. Be friends naman not enemies. Kung ayaw niyong mablock or ma-ban, then follow the rules and regulations that TopGear Philippines had set. Huwag naman kayong magsabi ng foul words like B*B* and alam niyo na yung iba. Di niyo ba alam that TopGear Philippines has good and responsible moderators and administrators. So stop those bad and illogical comments. Like trolls na wala naman naitutulong.

    Sincerely yours,
    TopGear PH member
    • jim82592 Apr 23 2012 @ 09:35pm
      Aaminin ko pinatulan ko din minsan yung troll pero nagsawa na din ako, nawawalang yung pagiging senseful na pagkatao ko eh, kaya tinigilan ko na din. Nakakagulat nga lang na after ko basahin yung new articles, after an hour ang dami na kaagad comments kasi nagreact yung troll. :|
    • carwiki9988 Apr 23 2012 @ 09:41pm
      Ako man, kahit minsan lang akong pumatol I should apologize meaning I shall say "Sorry" to TopGear Philippines.
    • dsobreo Apr 23 2012 @ 10:14pm
      Wow thank you...
    • Kyoichi Sudo Apr 24 2012 @ 12:04am
      Thank you for that informative comment
    • barry Apr 24 2012 @ 02:42pm
      i already mentioned that thing before. wag papatol sa troll. walang magandang idudulot yan. like what i'd said before, car forums like these must share basic interests when it comes to cars. guys, hindi naman tayo mga speed demons na makikipagkarera. for the topgear team, thank you for reminding us. i know this is impossible to be stopped but only i can say is...refrain from being troll. and we know who he is...hats off to papi kyoichi, dsobreo, hondajazz, carwiki9988 and the rest..
  • bruce Apr 23 2012 @ 09:31pm
    Nice! trolling should and must be stopped. hundreds of nonsense comments in one article is not funny, especially if you cannot get anything car-related from it, only pure hatred! merong ..best, meron ding ..die at meron pang ..worst!
  • myk384 Apr 23 2012 @ 09:40pm
    This is a wake up call to everyone! Check niyo ang mga comments sa mga car magazine websites internationally, puro relevant sa topic at walang trolling dun.
    • carwiki9988 Apr 23 2012 @ 09:47pm
      Yes, maganda ang flow.
    • Kyoichi Sudo Apr 24 2012 @ 12:06am
      dba sa *****.com may trolling ding nangyayari dun? may sinabi ka sa'kin dati Sir dba?
      • Kyoichi Sudo Apr 24 2012 @ 12:17am
        oops! bawal pala mag-sabi nang bagay-bagay sa ibang sites, sorry TGP! Peace
  • carwiki9988 Apr 23 2012 @ 09:52pm
    Ma-oout lang ako sa topic ah. Napansin ko yung keyboard sa picture, that's the keyboard in Germany! Hahaha!!!
    • cypher_topgear06@yahoo.co Apr 24 2012 @ 12:47pm
      I knew it was weird. I saw QWERTZ instead of QWERTY and I thought I was getting light-headed from the heat. xD
  • RS500 Apr 23 2012 @ 10:03pm
    #2. Ganyan ako minsan. Siguro nasanay na din ako sa workplace ko na laging seryoso. Nakakainip tuloy kaya ginagawang pampalipas oras ko mga forums.


    TGP. Ok lang ba na dalawa gumamit ng username? Minsan kasi ginagamit ng pamangkin ko laptop tas alam din niya topgear website. Di ko lang sure kung nagpopost siya minsan dito. Bata pa kaya di marunong mag register sa board.
  • jeprockz Apr 23 2012 @ 10:04pm
    This is serious. hope trolling stops. kung mababasa man ng mga trolls itong article na to sana marealise nila n hindi na maganda ginagawa nila. TopGear PH is a site for car enthusiast who loves cars. this is a site to find enjoyment about the latest in the auto industry. this is not a site for people to find pleasure in annoying others. please, PEACE TAYO LAHAT!

    also, sorry TopGear PH. minsan din akong pumatol s troll. wont happen again. ^_^v
  • dsobreo Apr 23 2012 @ 10:16pm
    Actually kaya lang ako pumapatol kasi gusto ko ipa realize na mali ginagawa nila, anyways thank you TGP sa pag respond.... Hope matigil na ang trolling and sana may sense na ang usapan. NO more brand hatings
    • gogogo Apr 23 2012 @ 10:28pm
      Kahit maayos yung sagot mo mura naman yung ibabalik sayo. :)
      • marcha77 Apr 23 2012 @ 10:30pm
        Yup! Just got that reply from a poster here.

      • dsobreo Apr 23 2012 @ 10:34pm
        oo nga. Enough said... Yaan mo na sila kung di sila magbabago
      • barry Apr 24 2012 @ 02:44pm
        oo nga...
  • gogogo Apr 23 2012 @ 10:16pm
    Sana nga tumigil na yung trolls. :)
  • marcha77 Apr 23 2012 @ 10:19pm
    Thanks for the heads up.

    I hope that people who post here stop using words like bobo, tanga, BANO, etc. Whatever our car preferences are it doesn't give anyone the right to say malicious things to another person.

    Cheers to Topgear Phil's. And to all the members/poster!!!!!!
  • carwiki9988 Apr 23 2012 @ 10:43pm
    Guys, Sama-sama tayong buuin ang acronym ng TopGear!
    T-
    O-
    P-
    G-
    E-
    A-
    R-
    • carwiki9988 Apr 23 2012 @ 10:45pm
      Sa reply nyo na lang buuin.
    • carwiki9988 Apr 23 2012 @ 10:50pm
      For me,
      T- rustworthy
      O- ptimistic
      P- eaceful
      G- ood
      E- nthusiastic
      A- nd
      R- espectful

      account users. :)
      • Kyoichi Sudo Apr 24 2012 @ 12:08am
        ayos pre! hahahaha.....
  • Troytin Apr 23 2012 @ 11:04pm
    Ignore the troll. Friends tayong lahat dito, walang mag aaway. :)
    • barry Apr 24 2012 @ 02:45pm
      kaya, ihanda na ang beer para magsaya! haha
      • Troytin Apr 27 2012 @ 06:01pm
        Sagot ni Kyoichi! Rich kid yun e!
    • barry Apr 30 2012 @ 01:49pm
      kyoichi, pabeer ka naman jan! haha
  • jabroni Apr 23 2012 @ 11:08pm
    seen this article coming, great for TGP... but trolls might prey on new users? Better if this kind of notice be included upon registration of new account.
  • LancerEX-GTA Apr 23 2012 @ 11:11pm
    This should be a sticky post
  • hondajazz Apr 23 2012 @ 11:40pm
    basta ako mabait na ko ha.yung troll lang naman yung dahilan kung baket ako naging masama e.peace guys!sana i ban na ng tgp yung ip address nun para masaya tayong lahat. :)
  • angelcave89 Apr 23 2012 @ 11:56pm
    Suggestion ko lang sana may warning/suspension sana dito sa TGP para sa mga trolls, feed ng trolls at foul words..
    example lng..
    1st warning, 2nd warning at 3rd suspension na 1week or 1month suspension..OR
    1st offense=1week suspension
    2nd offense=1 month suspension
    3rd offense=IP ban..para naman mas maganda TGP
  • Deyn Man Apr 24 2012 @ 12:03am
    one reason why i don't visit the forum anymore... this and the tons of ads being posted! :(
    • mts Apr 24 2012 @ 09:39pm
      ah, I also stop visiting the site for sometime. But after weeks.... ok, "days" of absence (haha), I re-visited the site. Nakakamiss din. :) Lalo na pag nag babasa ako ng mag at night, tapos sa tanghali, hindi ko dala ang mag, visit lang ako sa site. Ayos na ang "butobuto" haha
  • Kyoichi Sudo Apr 24 2012 @ 12:13am
    Nice! This should serve as a wake-up call and a warning to trolls, if they still want to be a part here in TGP, stop trolling, and that's it! Is that so hard to do? Si Sir Hondajazz nga nagawa eh.

    BTW, medyo natamaan ako sa naka-highlight na word na "pathetic", naalala ko tuloy nung na-sermonan ako si Sir Vernon ahihihihihi.......... Peace Sir Vernon :)
  • mindkinetic Apr 24 2012 @ 01:07am
    this proves how tgp is well connected with it's members. salute!
  • HD Apr 24 2012 @ 03:09am
    Well said. However my experience with moderating various online forums (since 1995) is that these trolls and troublemakers rarely ever leave or behave. They will continue to disrupt intelligent discussion whenever they can, as long as they have access. In short, they have to be banned for the greater good.
  • kapangyarihan_ng_kabayo Apr 24 2012 @ 07:52am
    Hay Salamat! Sa wakas napakinggan din yung mga reklamo natin patungkol sa mga trolls at pati na din sa mga HATERS. Thank you chief VBS and TGP team for this article. Let's all be make TGP.com.ph a professional automotive site for our country to be proud of.
  • kyrejohn Apr 24 2012 @ 09:26am
    Peace be with all the Car and Top Gear fans :-)
    • kyrejohn Apr 24 2012 @ 09:29am
      this is my first post for quite a while. nakakabwisit na kasi minsan. ini-skip ko na nga lang comments section. cheers TGP editors!
  • lord_cykb24 Apr 24 2012 @ 09:44am
    TGP rocks...!!! Trolls should behave please for the sake or our passion of cars..!!!
  • Adelbert Apr 24 2012 @ 10:14am
    This news made my day.
  • chevycruze Apr 24 2012 @ 10:45am
    I have read comments in an article here recently, a user said an opinion(an opinion he always points out in comments that I remember from the past articles) he claims, a person is ofcourse entitled to his own opinion, but I think it is kind of rather spam-my if he tries to point that out in every article and it is kind of a bit childish to do so. No need to drop names but some may get this. Peace!
    • Kyoichi Sudo Apr 24 2012 @ 11:27am
      I wonder what's posted here....
  • KERSMcPherson Apr 24 2012 @ 10:53am
    just a comment,

    TGP is number1 because of well-written articles about cars? or #1 because of TopGirlPoses? It could be both. This is a public site where registered users, even if they "agreed" with the terms of using this site, can post anything they want to say.

    Aside from one member who triggered this "news", teaser titles should be chosen carefully. Because when one ask a question about it, it simmers and turns to a real-*gly exchanges of posts..

    Like a crowded mall, it needs "sweepers" to make it clean- fulltime.
  • Carfanatic Apr 24 2012 @ 12:11pm
    Yup, it's about time TGPH took an action. Good job! All I can say, let's show respect to everyone.
  • dhryfusc Apr 24 2012 @ 12:43pm
    Nice move. . . . We have an informative, healthy and friendly discussion about cars. . . . . cheers. . . . Strict to the topic tayo lahat. . . . Tnx. Good day everybody
  • Leopaul Apr 24 2012 @ 01:01pm
    I'm glad I wasn't one of them...
  • lsdgenie Apr 24 2012 @ 02:37pm
    While there are obvious trolls (who I admit, I once enjoyed provoking hehehe) that should be banned, what I find even more annoying are the lack of manners of some people around here

    Comments like -

    "that brand or car is only appealing to people who have no real knowledge of cars"
    "car x is so much better than car y because it has higher torque and whp, which is why i can't understand why people buy it"
    etc ad nauseum

    I'm not saying to not state your opinion - everyone is entitled to his or her own, and healthy discussion helps everyone out, especially when considering a new ride. But please state the opinion in a way that is respectful of the decisions and choices of other people...since most likely, that car you are lambasting, is the car that a person spent his or her hard-earned money on. I personally worked hard, saved, and worked even more to afford my vehicles...and I know the hardship and sacrifice it took, especially when I was just starting out in my career. Which is why I respect more the salaryman who bought a vios after scrimping for a year or two, than the person who drives daddy's cars and lambasts other people for their choice.

    RESPECT.
  • tgstig Apr 24 2012 @ 03:12pm
    Tama to. Ang hirap na magbasa ng comments, yung ibang nagreresponse sa troll wala ring sense eh.
  • allanoreyes Apr 24 2012 @ 04:05pm
    ang pinapa tamaan ba dito ay yun si hyundaibest?
    • bruce Apr 24 2012 @ 07:00pm
      marami pang iba sir.. ;)
    • maranello_5775 Apr 24 2012 @ 09:43pm
      he's only one of those
    • hajabah Apr 24 2012 @ 10:18pm
      Only one of many; you can sometimes tell [sometimes lang ha] by their usernames and the inevitable bias in their comments....
  • rockyroad Apr 24 2012 @ 06:09pm
    Nice One TGP :)
  • hajabah Apr 24 2012 @ 08:08pm
    I love how you used big words here, promoting intelligent exchanges. Haha! On a more serious note, though, thanks, editors! :)
  • mts Apr 24 2012 @ 09:22pm
    You can count me in for not replying to such nonsense comments. You can COUNT ME IN. :) More power TGP!
  • maranello_5775 Apr 24 2012 @ 09:41pm
    I agree on banning specific IP addresses
  • mts Apr 24 2012 @ 09:42pm
    Mukhang dito ko makikita ang legit guests ah.
  • manongtaxi Apr 24 2012 @ 11:34pm
    Buti naman napansin na ng admin ang mga troll dito sa website dati madaming ganyan una NISSAN FANATIC nanggugulo tapos MITSU tapos ngayon naman HYUNDAI tsk tsk tsk
    • Troytin Apr 27 2012 @ 06:03pm
      Sayang sir di ko inabutan yung Nissan fanatic at yung Mitsu fanatic. Bago lang kase ako dito sa forums e.
      What year sila nanggugulo dito?
      • manongtaxi May 01 2012 @ 02:37am
        Si BOOGIECAT ang alam ko yung NISSAN FANATIC tapos may KAAWAY din na MITSU FANATIC yan si BOOGIECAT, yun ang panahon na hindi mo pa kailangan magregister para magcomment.
  • Feeter Silverster Apr 24 2012 @ 11:57pm
    Sana nga eh tumigil na ang trolls, dati naman, since 2007, forum lang meron, pero peaceful kami dito hanggang nauso ang reply/ commenting sa mga news. Salamat sa editors sa pagbasag ng kanilang katahimikan.
  • nivlem31 Apr 25 2012 @ 02:52am
    nice tgp guys... A WAKE UP CALL.
  • spherion03 Apr 25 2012 @ 03:34am
    I think isa na dyan yung hyundaibest...
  • jigg11 Apr 25 2012 @ 08:31am
    salamat naman at mababawasan na mga walang katuturang comments at kontra comments na tumatambak lang. Sa halip na makapulot ka tuloy ng mga makakatulong na payo ay iiwasan mo na tuloy magbasa ng mga comments na puro sa awayan lang napupunta. Thank you TGP at more power!
  • jetski Apr 28 2012 @ 09:55pm
    well said..
  • one.edchelle May 15 2012 @ 12:07am
    uhmm, hindi ko po alam kung isa ako dun ah, hindi ko kasi gets masyado, i love TG and the community, Sorry po kung minsan nakakapag-post ako ng irrelevant sa cars or seems boring., i love cars naman o, tska Peace po tayo..
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