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Hyundai PH releases specs and prices of 2013 Santa Fe

2013 Hyundai Santa Fe

Hyundai Asia Resources has released the official specs and prices of the 2013 Philippine-market Santa Fe. At launch, there will be two variants available, the 2.2L R-eVGT 6AT 2WD and the 2.2L R-eVGT 6AT 4WD. The 2WD costs P1,768,000, while the 4WD sells for P2,228,000. Both have seven seats and both are equipped with a six-speed automatic transmission.

For the full list of specs and features, see the list above. And make sure you leave a note in the comments box below saying whether Hyundai did a swell job pricing and configuring the new Santa Fe.

 

Specs of 2013 Hyundai Santa Fe

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  • tgstig 8 months ago
     
    that's the LWB version
       
  • Rem 8 months ago
     
    Is this for the LWB version? IMO they should have retained the panoramic sunroof, rear camera and side/curtain airbags. :(
       
    • someonespecialisme 8 months ago
       
      according to autoindustriya, all that features are in the 4wd
         
      • Rem 8 months ago
         
        oops. I mean for the 2WD version. sorry! :P most people wouldn't drive it off-road. ang mahal na niya but you don't get the same features for the 4WD version. :(
           
  • someonespecialisme 8 months ago
     
    i like it and all but its too expensive... for that 4wd price, might as well get an explorer...atleast the explorer is a real 7 seater and not a 5 seater pretending to be a 7 seater..the only thing you wont get when you choose an explorer is the 2.2 diesel.... but instead you get a 3.5 v6..
    and im sure hyundiebest would bash me for this one..
        1
    • Fernando Amorsolo 8 months ago
       
      Agree x3
         
    • Kyoichi Sudo 7 months ago
       
      just to add, you also get the 2.0L Ecoboost Explorer w/the price of the 4WD Santa Fe...

      one more thing, HB can only stare at your comment but he can't bash it anymore since he's out of here...
         
    • vgpena 7 months ago
       
      I would also add that the CX-9 is also in range of that 4x4 price tag. Sad day for people looking forward to this SUV :'(
         
  • Leo1234567890 8 months ago
     
    Diesel ba 'yan or gas? And, how come Hyundai prices the Santa Fe very high, especially for the high-end variant? Mas okay pa yung dating pricing.
        1
    • focusjohann 8 months ago
       
      Diesel sir and its very very pricey
         
  • lord_cykb24 8 months ago
     
    nice features but the sticky price tag makes me frown........... I'd rather choose the Chevy Trailblazer or the upcoming 2013 Mitsu Monty (2013 updated version)
        1
  • vgpena 8 months ago
     
    It won't beat the MS or Fortuner with those prices. Heck it might even lose to Sorento now.

    Also, wrong picture unless TopGear is telling us that these are the prices for the LWB version.
       
    • Fernando Amorsolo 8 months ago
       
      Hello? Fortuner, monty and eve are in the truck based segment. They ain't battling in the samw segment
         
      • vgpena 8 months ago
         
        When car-buyers look for an SUV seating capacity and cost are what define which segment they belong to, not the frame of the vehicle. Show me a study or statistic that the vehicles' frame is a factor for customers looking to buy an SUV or else you are simply wrong.

        Only people like us, who actively go to sites like this, actually really care (or even know) about the frame of an SUV (either ladder frame or a unibody).
            1
        • GotToRead 8 months ago
           
          Actually sir you are right, here in our country most buyers don't really think about if it's a CUV or SUV. Most of my friends and their dads think if it's a 7 seater with a hood it's an SUV. What a shame....
              1
          • vgpena 8 months ago
             
            Haha! True story. In any case, SUV or CUV, my point is simply that these vehicles belong to the SAME SEGMENT, regardless of the chassis they sit on, hence they DIRECTLY COMPETE with each other.

            On another note, in most cases buyers don't really need to concern themselves with the difference between a CUV and an SUV because for their purposes, either chassis would suffice :)
                1
            • mgr366 8 months ago
               
              I agree, but in my case, yun talaga hinanap ko being an SUV (na mura hehehe- kaya MS ang binili ko), the height and if it can perform sa off road... as you have said, iilan lang talaga...
                  1
  • daryyyl 8 months ago
     
    Ang mahal masyado. Mas maganda pa yung pricing ng outgoing model Santa Fe.
       
  • Fernando Amorsolo 8 months ago
     
    HARI, wag kayong tumulad sa Columbian. Pagkamahal naman ng Santa Fe ngayon. Yes, undoubtedly, it has laudable features and magics, but, you are limiting the market to the luxury midsize already!

    Alternatives like CX5, or for the better the Ford explorer, which is a ton better, just 200k more, would be a wiser choice.

    Nagkatotoo prediction ko ng pricing.

    Anyway, interested to see it in metal? See hyundai manila bay :)
       
    • snoid_zero 8 months ago
       
      CX5 is not in the same league.
      A ton better?...hmmmn...wait till you drive one.
         
      • vgpena 8 months ago
         
        Tama, CX-5 is not in the same segment. But I agree with Mr. Amorsolo on one point, the Explorer is bigger than the Santa Fe so they shouldn't be priced similarly. Price-wise, the Explorer should compete with the LWB model instead of the regular version.
           
    • vgpena 8 months ago
       
      Wrong segment. CX-5 belongs to the mini-SUV segment which battles the Tucson. The Santa Fe is considered a midsize-SUV like the Fortuner and Montero Sport.

      Yes, the 4x4 variant is closer to the Ford Explorer's price than the Fortuner / Monty and I suspect it can't compete with the size / features of the larger Explorer. Don't forget CX-5's bigger brother while you are at it, the CX-9 is also within range of the 4x4 Santa Fe.
          1
      • Fernando Amorsolo 8 months ago
         
        Hello! :) I included the CX5 in the List because, CX5 is a clear 5 seater. the SWB Santa Fe, in a point, is competing the Cx5 in that case. So which will you buy? I'll tend to have the CX5. A better engine, is always better than a facelifted car. :)
           
        • vgpena 7 months ago
           
          No model of the Santa Fe available in Hyundai showrooms has 5 seats only. Check the spec sheet if you want. The CX5 also has a less horsepower and a lot less torque and worse mileage So I don't understand where you get off telling me that it has a better engine.

          But the real reason why I corrected you is that the CX5 belongs to the Affordable Compact SUV segment of the market, which makes it compete with the Tucson instead of the Santa Fe.
              1
          • Fernando Amorsolo 8 months ago
             
            In case, if your issue hasn't resolved yet - In My mind = CX5 is a CUV and the SF is also.

            And is a Higher HP always a better Engine? Knock knock? Think about it. SkyActiv over the SF's current engine?
               
            • vgpena 8 months ago
               
              Your mind is not my concern when I speak of market segment. Technically, even as CUVs they are not the same, one is midsize with 3 rows of seats the other is compact with only 5 rows of seats. Defend your position if you want but the facts do not support you.

              Also, I mentioned three different characteristics why the 2.2-liter R-eVGT engine is superior: power, torque and mileage. I have yet to hear one aspect of the engine of which is inferior. All I have is your fan-boying over SkyActiv technology which is just your personal preference.

              Give some facts to back your claim or you're just trolling here.
                 
        • Fernando Amorsolo 8 months ago
           
          In case, if your issue hasn't resolved yet - In My mind = CX5 is a CUV and the SF is also.

          And is a Higher HP always a better Engine? Knock knock? Think about it. SkyActiv over the SF's current engine?
             
          • vgpena 8 months ago
             
            Your mind is not my concern when I speak of market segment. Technically, even as CUVs they are not the same, one is midsize with 3 rows of seats the other is compact with only 5 rows of seats. Defend your position if you want but the facts do not support you.

            Also, I mentioned three different characteristics why the 2.2-liter R-eVGT engine is superior: power, torque and mileage. I have yet to hear one aspect of the engine of which is inferior. All I have is your fan-boying over SkyActiv technology which is just your personal preference.

            Give some facts to back your claim or you're just trolling here.
               
            • Fernando Amorsolo 8 months ago
               
              (Applause) thank you for CONTRADICTING yourself, in one of your comments (later discussions). Whatever discussion and self righteousness you slap to some random people you meet here (like me), You WILL never prove yourself worthy of talking with, because of BEING A TROLL in the very first place. RESPECT opinions. 'ke you present me with facts, I cannot be assured of it's reliability. Maybe just fanboys like you made it.

              I am here at TG for a long time. Just deactivating my previous profile because of frequent changes in my preferred email. And Never did I become disrespectful, unlike you. So, looks like YOU are the troll here.

              Fact: Skyactiv technology, (by the way, I am not a Mazda fanboy here. Just an ordinary consumer who checks everything first, NOT just on spec base (unlike YOU na-sa papel lang natingin), but on involved techs, science and whatever), has the Highest Compression rate, from ordinary 10:1 to remarkable na 14:1, (SF has only 10:5). WHAT DOES IT MEAN:

              You know, in order to achieve thermal efficiency, a higher compression rate is needed. MAZDA achieved it. But this comes with drawback - ENGINE KNOCKING. Sikat ang Hyundai dyan. They made a way not to make that happen . In effect,

              a. Very efficient ( I don't know where do you get your facts na hindi efficient ang Cx5.) direct injection engine
              b. very nice drive kahit sa mid and low revs
              c. 15% increase in torque and efficiency

              Now, Di na kita papatulan kung bakit I still opt to have it against a Santa Fe - in the segment or not. (eh yung SF nga pinagpipilitan sa segment ng TRUCK based, tapos sasabihing IT DOESN'T really matter to filipinos? WTF??!!!,

              Ngayong tinatry I compare ang SF sa better Skyactiv ng Cx5, Ayaw patalo? Bitch please.

              Now, I rest my point. I promised to the moderators here not to make lecturing to children anymore. I came here to share opinions, not to make argument to some self righteous people.

              (Pili lang talaga may alam dito sa forums tsk tsk)
                 
        • Fernando Amorsolo 8 months ago
           
          (Applause) thank you for CONTRADICTING yourself, in one of your comments (later discussions). Whatever discussion and self righteousness you slap to some random people you meet here (like me), You WILL never prove yourself worthy of talking with, because of BEING A TROLL in the very first place. RESPECT opinions. 'ke you present me with facts, I cannot be assured of it's reliability. Maybe just fanboys like you made it.

          I am here at TG for a long time. Just deactivating my previous profile because of frequent changes in my preferred email. And Never did I become disrespectful, unlike you. So, looks like YOU are the troll here.

          Fact: Skyactiv technology, (by the way, I am not a Mazda fanboy here. Just an ordinary consumer who checks everything first, NOT just on spec base (unlike YOU na-sa papel lang natingin), but on involved techs, science and whatever), has the Highest Compression rate, from ordinary 10:1 to remarkable na 14:1, (SF has only 10:5). WHAT DOES IT MEAN:

          You know, in order to achieve thermal efficiency, a higher compression rate is needed. MAZDA achieved it. But this comes with drawback - ENGINE KNOCKING. Sikat ang Hyundai dyan. They made a way not to make that happen . In effect,

          a. Very efficient ( I don't know where do you get your facts na hindi efficient ang Cx5.) direct injection engine
          b. very nice drive kahit sa mid and low revs
          c. 15% increase in torque and efficiency

          Now, Di na kita papatulan kung bakit I still opt to have it against a Santa Fe - in the segment or not. (eh yung SF nga pinagpipilitan sa segment ng TRUCK based, tapos sasabihing IT DOESN'T really matter to filipinos? WTF??!!!,

          Ngayong tinatry I compare ang SF sa better Skyactiv ng Cx5, Ayaw patalo? Bitch please.

          Now, I rest my point. I promised to the moderators here not to make lecturing to children anymore. I came here to share opinions, not to make argument to some self righteous people.

          (Pili lang talaga may alam dito sa forums tsk tsk)
              1
          • vgpena 8 months ago
             
            Yes compression ratio. I hear you. As you increase it you get improved power and torque without increasing fuel consumption. It seems to me that better science when applied produces better spec on paper.

            The 2.0-liter gasoline SkyActiv Engine with 14:1 compression ratio produces 162 horsepower and 210nm of torque. The 2.2-liter R-eVGT diesel engine inside the Santa Fe produces 194 horsepower and 436nm of torque. Take note that the diesel engine with a lower compression ratio (as you have pointed out) actually has better power output than the gasoline engine which normally produces more power.

            Now with this non-sense about Santa Fe being in the same segment as CX-5, I'd like to see one source corroborate your statement. The two can accommodate different number of passengers and are priced differently. I would point out that the Tucson is actually the more direct competitor to the CX-5 in size, price and seating capacity. The Sante Fe is a mid-size SUV/CUV the CX-5 is compact/mini CUV/SUV.

            And yes the difference between ladder-frame SUVs and unibody SUVs does not matter to most Filipinos. Just look at Sir Botchi's section on Right car / wrong car. He compares ladder frame SUVs to unibody SUVs all the time. This is from someone who is actually PAID to write about the automobile industry.

            As for your remark about teaching children, there is no need. All they will learn from you is misguided pride and self-righteousness. No need to spread that arrogance around.
                2
          • vgpena 8 months ago
             
            Oh and the CX-5 mileage according to TopGear's August 2012 issue is 11 km/l and the 4x2 Sorento diesel's mileage (which shares the same engine as the Santa Fe) is 14.92 km/l.

            Here is the url: http://www.topgear.com.ph/features/feature-articles/eight-of-the-most-fuel-efficient-suvs-and-pickup-trucks-in-the-philippines

            See? That's what I call facts. All you've given is actually just a bunch of jargon meant to show off your knowledge of cars. I ask a couple of questions and throw in a couple of facts from this very magazine and your all out of gas. Sorry bro. Better luck trolling next time.

            Peace out.
                1
          • vgpena 8 months ago
             
            Oh and one last thing:

            The 2.2-liter R-eVGT Santa Fe has a compression ratio of 16.0:1 instead of 10:5 that you pointed out. So in that sense, the 2.2-liter R-eVGT still beats SkyActiv's 14:1 compression ratio.

            Here is my source: http://carleasingmadesimple.com/business-car-leasing/hyundai/santa-fe/compression-ratio/

            No idea at all where you get your misinformation. Next time check the facts before you post stuff like these because correcting your mistakes this is getting embarrassing, even for me, already.
                1
    • vgpena 8 months ago
       
      Wrong segment. CX-5 belongs to the mini-SUV segment which battles the Tucson. The Santa Fe is considered a midsize-SUV like the Fortuner and Montero Sport.rnrnYes, the 4x4 variant is closer to the Ford Explorer's price than the Fortuner / Monty and I suspect it can't compete with the size / features of the larger Explorer. Don't forget CX-5's bigger brother while you are at it, the CX-9 is also within range of the 4x4 Santa Fe.
          1
    • someonespecialisme 8 months ago
       
      bro maybe what you meant was the cx9 the really huge 7 seater not the newly released cx5
         
      • Fernando Amorsolo 8 months ago
         
        Hello! :) I included the CX5 in the List because, CX5 is a clear 5 seater. the SWB Santa Fe, in a point, is competing the Cx5 in that case. So which will you buy? I'll tend to have the CX5. A better engine, is always better than a facelifted car. :)
           
    • markdejesus76 8 months ago
       
      Gets kita. haha.
         
  • 17Sphynx17 8 months ago
     
    This is still the previous gen diesel engine correct as I think the output hp isl the same?

    It is kind of restrictive in terms of pricing for the LWB model. Does it mean the SWB model won't have 4x4 tech anymore and only 2WD or FWD only? Assumption then is that the SWB model would be around 1.3m php to 1.6m php. This differentiates the LWB from the SWB further as the Tucson is phased out from the market.

    Is it the same size as an Explorer or CX9? I am just having trouble with the pricing to comprehend it.
       
    • Fernando Amorsolo 8 months ago
       
      Hello. I think only the american variants did have a new engine.

      And, one question, what do you mean byas the tucson is phased put from the market.? Thanks
         
      • 17Sphynx17 8 months ago
         
        Oh ic ic.

        Well, I was under the impression the the Sta Fe SWB is the "new tucson" as it is a 5 seater. If we had both in our market, the Tucson might be redundant already, like the Getz and i10. As such, they opt out of the older model. This is my assumption though. And my assumed price point for the SWB basically puts it in the same "segment" of the Tucson, although the current one is cheaper considering it has gas models. =)

        Speculation my you but I expect it to be like that as it will also help with parts inventory within HARI. I suspect. =)
           
        • tgstig 8 months ago
           
          No... the SWB variant is still a 7 seater.
             
          • 17Sphynx17 8 months ago
             
            I thought the Sta Fe sport as shown here https://www.hyundaiusa.com/vehicles/2013/santa-fe/? is the 5 seater? the LWB is the 7 seater or 6 seater premium variant they will offer.

            Basically the SWB or sport cannot house 6/7 seats because the rear area is too small for it. But I may be mistaken.
               
            • tgstig 8 months ago
               
              Yes, baka 6 seater nalang pag malalaki ang umupo sa 3rd row seats pero from is ad: http://sulit.com.ph/2280526, may 3rd row parin talaga and SWB siya.
                 
              • tgstig 8 months ago
                 
                7 pa rin pala, magiging 6 lang pag 2 tao lang nag kasya sa 2nd row. pero ang 3rd row kasya dalawa. Yun nga lang, ang liit na ng bintana mo sa 3rd row.
                   
          • Fernando Amorsolo 8 months ago
             
            Tgstig: SWB is a 5 seater :) that is why it is 40mm shorter than the LWB. Additional 40 mm is for the 3rd row :)
               
            • tgstig 8 months ago
               
              yes, the SWB in the US is a 5 seater, and the LWB is their 7 Seater. but their wheelbase difference is 100mm, 2700mm for the SWB and 2800mm for the LWB. Yung sa atin kasi galing Korea and yung SWB nila 7 seater pa rin.
                 
    • tgstig 8 months ago
       
      Pagkaka alam ko wala pa tayong LWB dito, kasi lahat yan galing Korea at wala pa sila LWB doon. Kahit sa US di pa inooffer ang LWB.
         
      • Fernando Amorsolo 8 months ago
         
        I beg to disagree. Kaya nga po May LWB and SWB variant na inooffer na. With almost 500 Thousand difference.
            1
        • tgstig 8 months ago
           
          Please paki tingnan dimension sa taas, pareho lang ang wheelbase (2700). Gulat ka no? Ako nga rin eh, ang laki ng difference sa price.
             
          • Fernando Amorsolo 8 months ago
             
            I stand corrected. Thanks! :)
               
        • vgpena 8 months ago
           
          tgstig is right. Both are SWB. LWB is not yet available anywhere.
             
          • mgr366 8 months ago
             
            i agree, kasi mas malaki ang LCD screen ng LWB eh... pinilit lang na gawing 7 seater yun SWB.
               
  • bruce 8 months ago
     
    nice features! but like many are saying, they did a hell job swelling the price.. :)
       
  • jabroni 8 months ago
     
    I've seen a unit in valero parking and it really looks small from the outside. Kung compare mo siya with Explorer or CX9 eh medyo mas may dating ung dalawa kesa dito. I don't think this will sell well as compared to the previous gen. I'd rather have the Explorer over this.
       
  • isaac3654 8 months ago
     
    May I ask? How about the LWB? because so far, puro SWB lang nakikita ko, at andami naring naka Santa Fe samin, school, village, etc, and they're all the SWB. >.
       
    • isaac3654 8 months ago
       
      and if there's no LWB coming to the Philippines, then that's sad! I feel bad for the people seating in the 3rd row, wla silang glass area halos.
         
    • Fernando Amorsolo 8 months ago
       
      I agree. It has a 'claustrophobic' effect on riders.
         
  • tgstig 8 months ago
     
    Mali yung photo sa taas, LWB yan.
       
  • 17Sphynx17 8 months ago
     
    Guys, I think this is the LWB model not the SWB or sport. Check these links.

    https://www.hyundaiusa.com/vehicles/future-cars/2013/santa-fe/index.aspx
    This link shows the 7 seater LWB I think, same rear window panel design.

    For the SWB or sport, the rear window is different.
    https://www.hyundaiusa.com/vehicles/2013/santa-fe/?

    So I think this is really the LWB model and not the SWB just because of the difference in the rear window which I think makes them somewhat distinct and different from the exterior side profile.
       
    • tgstig 8 months ago
       
      Plus yung foglights nila magkaiba sa SWB and LWB
         
    • snoid_zero 8 months ago
       
      bro...no need to think that pic is the LWB.
      the spec sheet thou is for the SWB...

      wheelbase for the LWB version is 2800.
         
  • snoid_zero 8 months ago
     
    @top gear...wrong picture...
    go check hyundai facebook page.
       
  • Vernon B. Sarne
    Vernon B. Sarne 8 months ago
     
    Hyundai Asia Resources has sent us a photo of the correct unit. We apologize for initially posting the wrong image.
       
  • json73002 8 months ago
     
    parang 1.7 na yung top of the line nung prev model ah. Sana maging competitive pa rin to. Sa 1.7m, top na ng trailblazer, monty, fortuner and pwede mo mabili.
       
  • Silver_Aviator 8 months ago
     
    For a Hyundai It's too Overpriced but the features are nice. If Hyundai Wants to sell many of these then they should lower the price a bit.
        1
  • Zoe andrea 8 months ago
     
    I like the design and specs...Mahal?the same lang ang pricing nila sa Sorento..I cant wait to see my new Santa fe..
       
  • 007 8 months ago
     
    I think Santa Fe segment is between Pajero, Murano SUV.
       
    • vgpena 8 months ago
       
      The out-going model Santa Fe is in the Montero / Fortuner segment actually, otherwise known as the affordable midsize SUV segment.
         
      • JoHunter 8 months ago
         
        I think they now upscaled it because of the phasing out of the Veracruz.
           
        • vgpena 8 months ago
           
          The out-going Vera Cruz will be replaced by the LWB Santa Fe. This is the SWB only we have here.
             
      • Fernando Amorsolo 8 months ago
         
        Actually, From it's humble beginning, Santa Fe really is up for the German SUV market.

        In the Philippines lang naman ki-nompete ang SF to the Truck Based SUVs becase of:

        1. Price
        2. No. of Capacitants
           
  • 17Sphynx17 8 months ago
     
    Given that this is actually the SWB version, then I would agree the premium seems a bit high. I would have expected it to be around 200-300k php lower for both models as it is already hitting Explorer territory and it is not even a full/mid size SUV that is for 7 adults.

    I understand the price increase as there are more features and tech but this might be the straw that breaks the camels back. Even the AWD Sorento stopped just a bit over at 2m php. People will buy it but it is really limiting its potential market if it approaches it this way I believe.

    But hey, I could be wrong. =) Nice car though. =)
       
    • Fernando Amorsolo 8 months ago
       
      Imagine, if you'll be paying it for 3-5 years. That price would swell all the more, over the Explorer. :|
         
  • priusv6 8 months ago
     
    in Korea the New santa fe price actually increase then previous model, its true this model was increased but not this much, it just increase only about 70,000 peso worth..if i'm saying in peso.
    this means NOT HYUNDAI MOTOR made this price. this price made by HARI.
    i'm korean but i will not gonna buy this car. its too much expensive.. HARI built quite good reputations for past couple of years but now they want destory it. come on HARI! its not your COMPANY u are not made this carm u just import it, dont get wrong, it should be 1,6M for 4X2 and 1,8 for 4X4 then u can sell this car.
    wake up!!
        1
    • GotToRead 8 months ago
       
      Sir, not here to disgrace you but I find it funny that you're korean and your username is Priusv6 haha. Cheers!

      Anyway, you're right this is one pricey SF, the base variant should be between 1.4-1.5m and the top variant 1.8m max.
         
    • vgpena 8 months ago
       
      As terrible as your English is, your pricing looks spot on. I could accept a slight increase of 100k over the out-going model for the additional features on the new one.
          1
      • bruce 8 months ago
         
        As great as your english is, a hundred thousand increase from the previous model, like what you're saying, should have been better!
           
  • tgstig 8 months ago
     
    Sino na ang bibili ng Tucson GLS Premium (Diesel - 1.7m) kung nasa 1.8m 1.9m ang new TOTL Santa Fe.
       
    • vgpena 8 months ago
       
      Same people who's been buying it up until now? :P The previous top-of-the-line Santa Fe was almost 1.8m diba?
         
      • mgr366 8 months ago
         
        actually, they are on sale. less 100k... - tucson...
           
        • vgpena 8 months ago
           
          Yeah, sales have been slowing down because of market saturation. Most of anyone who want one and can afford it has one already. That's why there's so many on the road.
             
      • tgstig 8 months ago
         
        Bu-bu-bu-but... because it's an all-new model.... :[
           
  • JoHunter 8 months ago
     
    The one in the pic is the Sport, right? Anyway, I think the price is reasonable considering the LWB is considered as replacement for the Veracruz in the midsize luxury category. Papatulan ko 'to.
       
  • someonespecialisme 8 months ago
     
    just looks like a tucson with a facelift
       
  • vgpena 8 months ago
     
    I just cannot help it but rant now. I have been looking forward to this model since I saw it's pictures April this year and now I won't even consider it because it is priced way above the current competition.

    In my mind, this is HARI's second major bungle this year. First came just a few months before with the release of the new Genesis Coupe WITHOUT the GDI V6 engine. Big disappointment. And now with a 2.2 million peso top-of-the-line Santa Fe (500k more expensive than the model it replaces) it's like they don't want to compete anymore with Mitsubishi and Toyota in the affordable midsize SUV segment. What kind of a car distributor does not want a piece of that market?

    Either they are giving up on that segment entirely (yet bringing a new model that used to be in that segment) or they think that the huge price-hike will go unnoticed by their potential customers. They weren't exactly breaking sales records with their previous model and now they pull this stunt. What are they smoking?

    There, I think I'm done ranting :(
       
    • GotToRead 8 months ago
       
      Right, I think Toyota, Mitsubishi and Chevy can breathe easily now.
         
      • vgpena 8 months ago
         
        I really like the design... sayang :'(
           
    • someonespecialisme 8 months ago
       
      to answer your question sir, POT. hehehe
         
      • vgpena 7 months ago
         
        Hahaha. I think I need me some of that :)
           
    • 17Sphynx17 7 months ago
       
      I just thought about it but maybe, just maybe, the guys over at HARI at thinking that the models have a more European flair to them and as such "deserve" to be treated as more premium than their Jap counterparts/rivals.

      It would explain the reasoning behind the price (although I still think unjustified) but of course, it won't help them in their long term prospects if all they are after is separating it from the "affordable" choices.

      Maybe it is their way of saying, our service centers can't cater to the current demand so we might as well limit the future demand to prevent our company from being overwhelmed. =P
         
      • vgpena 7 months ago
         
        Yes, they want to not sell cars. It all makes sense now =.=
           
    • tgstig 7 months ago
       
      Yea, 2m would be justifiable, but 2.2m, nah. Kahit sa gray market 1.9m lang eh.
         
      • snoid_zero 8 months ago
         
        Sir, the 1.9M from grey market is only the 4X2 model. Top of the line from grey market is @ 2.350M.
           
        • tgstig 8 months ago
           
          Oh ok, may panoramic sunroof rin kaya yung 4X2 model sa gray?
             
  • GotToRead 8 months ago
     
    The pricing killed it.
       
  • Feeter Silverster 8 months ago
     
    It is 7 seater, it is the LWB version, and we've driven it last weekend, and its very fast to drive. Feels very relaxed even when driven spiritedly, and the rear seats isn't cramped, although good for 3 teens, the rear seat is pushed back, and almost touched the rear doors.
        1
    • someonespecialisme 8 months ago
       
      SWB lang...even according to HARI
         
    • 17Sphynx17 7 months ago
       
      After considering snoid's and tgstig's responses, I also believe it to be SWB as the wheelbase is off by 100mm based on specs. Plus, the new photo used to update the actual look of the unit makes it the Sta Fe Sport model (SWB) and not the LWB model for the US market.

      This is what I gather if you check the links I posted from the hyundai US website. =)

      Cheers!

      I don't know how they managed to fit an additional 2 seatts in the back of the Sport though so I can't really imagine it. hehe!
         
      • JoHunter 8 months ago
         
        Baka hinabaan nang konti. it might really be a cross between the Sport and the LWB kung meron ganun. At any rate papatulan ko pa rin sya.
           
      • snoid_zero 8 months ago
         
        they managed to fit the additional 3rd seat just like they managed it in the previous Generation.
        One new feature they added is the Sliding 2nd Row Seats...
        So the 2nd and 3rd row seat legrooms can be adjusted.
           
  • jrnakaduke 8 months ago
     
    I saw one this morning. I thought it was a tucson. The design to me all looks the same from the eon to elantra to the tucson. too expensive for me.
       
  • xxgrendel 7 months ago
     
    HAC, DBC, BAS?! ito siguro yung nagpamahal.
    with the 2.2M id rather buy a toy and a family van. maybe an 86 and a 2nd hand Fuzion.
        1
    • carwiki 7 months ago
       
      The rear seats are one of the cons of the 86. :)
         
  • Zoe andrea 7 months ago
     
    well, take it or leave it..mahal pero marami pa rin ang bumibili ng Santa fe..
       
    • GotToRead 7 months ago
       
      If I and my family are crazy as f*ck millionaires I'd take it but since we're just ordinary citizen of this republic. I'd say no but I give Hyundai credits for their applied technology and that panoramic roof is astounding. :)
         
    • Fernando Amorsolo 8 months ago
       
      Marami ang nabili ng Santa Fe.. at this point. But, i think, hindi na. Yes, you migt see 2 or 3 on the road, neto, pero not as much as it used to be.

      See the explorer? Kahit na yung hindi masyado may kaya, binibili sya. Kasi it's too good to be true (the price and it's technology and everything).

      But this Santa fe, is soo limiting. Yung talagang may kaya lang ang bibili.
         
      • Fernando Amorsolo 8 months ago
         
        (my point here is that the current explorer is already plenty , despite being a 2 mil plus)
           
  • mindkinetic 7 months ago
     
    the trailblazer has better price positioning and the beat part is tht it offers a manula tranny
       
  • neutral 7 months ago
     
    Take it or leave it, just like toyota did to rav4 & what happened. The sales will dictate the pricing and if there will be no takers, perhaps hari will bring down the sta. fe's srp. What I really observed in our country is that, the cars with affordable prices or competitive prices are those cars with less features and those cars for third world countries. Those cars with global designs are not affordable to us and considered luxury already although in other countries these cars are only for the masses that even an ordinary employee can afford to buy one.
       
    • Fernando Amorsolo 8 months ago
       
      THAT is because Filipinos had a Lower Standard of Living compared to other countries.
         
  • Edgarallan Poe 8 months ago
     
    Kaya mataas ang presyo dahil mataas din ang features. Ito ang alternatibo sa premium german suv na 3x ang presyo.
       
    • Fernando Amorsolo 8 months ago
       
      I agree. That is the real Market of Santa Fe. To be competing with germans. not the Midsize SUV market.
         
  • brylle 8 months ago
     
    What we have here is just a face lift actually..same engine as previous santa fe but added new features.. The new generation of santa fe is not available here in Philippines, it is only available in Europe and U.S etc..

    here's the specs:
    Santa fe Sport have 2 variants (5-seater):
    1.) 2.0L Gas engine turbocharge with 264 Hp
    2.) 2.4L Gas engine with 190 Hp
    Then Santa Fe LWB (7-seater) 216 cm longer than Santa Fe Sport.

    This Santa Fe LWB has Diesel engine of V6 3.3L with 294 Hp will actually replaced the Veracruz.

    Unfortunately, what we have the above model is santa fe sport but they made it into 7 seater instead of 5 seater.

    If this above model here with the price of HARI, I guess your money will worth it..
       
    • vgpena 8 months ago
       
      FYI: The USA-spec Santa Fe has never had the 2.2 R-eVGT engine, they had the 3.5-liter V6 Gas for the previous model instead. The 2.0-liter turbo replaces the V6 model in the new Santa Fe for USA. The Santa Fe in the USA only had 2 rows of seats even for the previous model. It used to have the option for a third-row seats but they got rid of the option on it's last 2 years.

      We retain the excellent 2.2 R-eVGT diesel engine which is still best in class even with the introduction of the the new Ranger and Colorado / Trailblazer. This is legitimately the new model indeed, it's not just a face-lift.

      It's just the price which is really screwed up.
         
    • snoid_zero 8 months ago
       
      facelift?...hahaha funny
         
  • yokam888 8 months ago
     
    im confused... someone from hyundai told me 1.5mil for the 4x2 M/T swb version... now this came out, so there's no M/T 1.5mil version?
       
  • jasonlimos 8 months ago
     
    I loved the previous Sta Fe and vowed that if they release the new one, I will be one of the first who would get it, (I actually reserved at Hyundai Las Pinas). Alas! when I saw the new Sta Fe,..they made it look like the Tucson! If I wanted a Tucson, I would get a Tucson. Featurewise, all the added stability electronic gadgetries are not really reason enough for the half a million additional price. The 4x2 at 1.78MM? GREED KILLED IT.
       
  • SiRio1970 8 months ago
     
    The people at HARI don't believe in the famous Chinese saying, "DI BALI LIIT KITA, BASTA DAMI BILI"...
       
  • scoobydoo 8 months ago
     
    hahaha... with that kind of price. hyundai is definitely in over its head!
       
  • paparich 8 months ago
     
    May nakasalubong akong ganyan yesterday and I thought it was the New Honda CRV, they look like the same, masyado atang over priced, rather get an explorer for that kind of price range.
       
  • dudes073 8 months ago
     
    Sa tingin ko medyo maiksi ngayun ang santa fe pang limang tao lang talaga?.... ang additional seats for minors lang paano kung adults na at may height na 6" footer nasa likod paano n....
       
  • barry 8 months ago
     
    no manual tranny? too bad!
       
  • boktoy 8 months ago
     
    sa u.s. ang lwb ay may average price na 32k usd. so mga 1.3m php lang sa current change rate d2. laki naman ng deperensya. maybe pag wala gaanong bibili pababaan din nila ang price.
       
  • priusv6 8 months ago
     
    Better to get new sorento, this year or next year January will available. With 2, 2M?? Can buy BMW 520D. Here Is prIce fIgure for thIs crazy HARI's santa fe . ORLANDO IN KOREA about 22, 000, 000 won. This new Santa fe top of line 4X4 is 34, 000, 000 won so difference with this two cars are about 13, 000, 000won which is around 450, 000 peso equivalent so here is the answer for the new Santa fe price in the Philippine must be around 1.7M for the 4X4 top of the line. For your understanding Chevy Orlando is 1.2M in the Philippines. DO NOT BUY FROM HARI. better buy from gray markets. It just 1.9M they offer. But it has even more features. I don't get why HARI doing this. Kia now being more aggressive then HARI. I SAID IT'S HARI. PEOPLE!! HARI MADE THIS suck price. Better buy sorento or if u still ok under powered japs go for Toyota or Mitsubishi. Me? I waited so long for this Santa fe but no tthanks. I will wait Peugeot
       
  • dtkiko 8 months ago
     
    Where's the PhP1.5M manual-transmission version?!!!!??!!!!!

    What are you doing Hyundai!? Not all Pinoys ay tamad mag-drive at kumambiyo GUNG-GONG!!!!
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  • dtkiko 8 months ago
     
    Where's the PhP1.5M manual-transmission version?!!!!??!!!!!

    What are you doing Hyundai!?!?!!!!?

    Not all Pinoys ay tamad mag-drive at kumambiyo GUNG-GONG!!!!
        1
    • John Rigor 8 months ago
       
      They should have released the cheaper manual variant so they could remain competitive. It's so expensive now. Sayang, ang ganda pa naman ng features, design at specs niya.
         
    • dtkiko 8 months ago
       
      YUP sir John Rigor, akmang-akma sana ang manual-transmission option ng Fe, at least kahit man lang sa 4x2 variant nito.

      When you have a variant wherein at any-one-time you only have two wheels that transfer down power & traction onto the ground, such as the case on a 4x2 model, it's always nice to have that you have that stick-shift traditional manual option wherein you can the option to downshift whenever you need it ----- and that is when you want more power & control when you do overtaking, and when you want or need added engine speed deceleration by applying engine-braking (whether your car is loaded or not), especially in sweeping cornerings and in winding mountainous roads, whether while going uphilll, and moreso, in downhills. It is far safer to have a manual-tranny version, than an automatic one especially when it matters most....

      What is Hyundai Philippines or HARI thinking about? Are they nuts not to realise this especially for a 200-hp car like the Fe that is also relatively lighter than its 7-seater competitors in the segment? Of course, arguably one will always choose a manual-tranny one when we have all that power at disposal and while we want/need the control at the same time and at any one time, especially for the 4x2 version....
         
  • one.edchelle 8 months ago
     
    2.2 million for this?? not bad.. but too pricey.. a good rendition and new model from Hyundai.
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  • brylle 8 months ago
     
    Agree, at that price P2.2M - I would rather choose Explorer.
    Here's the comparison:

    Hyundai Santa Fe
    197 Hp, 2.2L e-RVGT engine, price - P2.2M, actually 5 seater but they made it 7 seater.

    Ford Explorer
    220 Hp, 2.0 ecoBoost engine, price - P2.2M, real 7 seater - much bigger compare to Santa Fe
       
    • vgpena 7 months ago
       
      Though I agree with you, you missed a couple of things that the Santa Fe has an advantage: Eco Boost Explorer is only 4x2 and it has only 360nm torque compared to the Hyundai's 437nm.
         
      • markdejesus76 8 months ago
         
        You wouldn't need too much torque. You won't use 4wd all of the time. Santa Fe is not a great off-roader. So is the Explorer. But it's more on highways and city driving. Why bother if the Explorer only has 4x2? if the 4x2 can match evenly with the 4x4 of Santa Fe? Then the advantage of Santa Fe is gone by that point. haha.
           
        • vgpena 8 months ago
           
          The availability of AWD is not specifically for off-road since both vehicles are not great at of road use. It's for on-demand additional grip on slippery or inclined roads or both. Availability of additional torque is what you really need for heavy vehicles like the Explorer because it allows them to carry / tow heavy loads. The 2.2 R-eVGT has an abnormal amount of torque for such a small displacement engine. Just look at other engines of it's size and displacement. It has even more torque than the 300hp Lancer Evo or the Subaru WRX STI!

          In any case, the Explorer EcoBoost is still the better option due to it's larger size. It fits 7 people properly and the 3rd row actually have windows to look out with. I am not sure about the EcoBoost variant's feature set like Ford Sync infotainment system, sunroof, power folding seats, power lift gate, etc which I'm sure the Explorer Limited has.
             
    • JoHunter 8 months ago
       
      Also, Korean cars > American cars
         
  • SymphonyX7 8 months ago
     
    The hell is wrong with HARI?! 1.768M for the 2WD and 2.28M for the 4WD? They must be INSANE. It's a new model and all, much better specs than its competition (sans the Explorer), but it's just too much! The 2.2M EcoBoost 2.0L Explorer won't leave any space for the 4WD Santa Fe.

    Around 1.4-1.5M for the 2WD and 1.8M for the 4WD seems appropriate.
       
  • Kyoichi Sudo 7 months ago
     
    The All-New Santa Fe is almost perfect, but seeing its ride height not-so-high(means the 4WD version is non-sense)and yet the 4WD Santa Fe gets the P2.2M pricetag, I'd rather kill myself by having a Fortuner than buying this Santa Fe...

    Also, I'm quite disappointed that this chick doesn't get a manual tranny since manual tranny is more fun to drive than the automatic unless its a 5/6speed AT with manual mode...
       
  • ying 7 months ago
     
    1.7 mil are you nuts?
       
  • priusv6 7 months ago
     
    We have simple solution for this crazy HARI, let's just don't buy this. Until they lower it's price. Or any of HYUNDAI CAR in the Philippines. HARI got this position because of your royal customer. Now HARI doesn't need us.
       
  • spherion03 7 months ago
     
    Biglang nagmahal from the previous model...
       
    • spherion03 7 months ago
       
      I think I'd better go with the facelifted Sorento
         
    • spherion03 7 months ago
       
      Or with the Explorer
         
  • GotToRead 8 months ago
     
    I think this a window for Kia now. A proper priced Sorento now will be a good deal.
       
  • Zoe andrea 8 months ago
     
    Facelifted Sorento will be the same price with the new Santa fe..
       
  • priusv6 8 months ago
     
    It is almost sure new sorento is here already but not selling yet because Kia has remain model have to sell first. And nee model will be little cheaper then current models. 4X2 5seater is just 1.39M
       
  • jbits 8 months ago
     
    2.2M? si Hyundaibest lang ang bibili niyan.. hehe
       
    • carwiki 8 months ago
       
      Wag mo kukunin yung SF niya pag binebenta sayo. Hehehe...
         
  • dianna 8 months ago
     
    Picture was indeed a SWB model and not a LWB model. Hyundai Motors haven't released any pictures of LWB model yet, though its outside apperance is more likely to be the same as SWB model. It's absolutely pricey but considering it's prevoius models as an SUV of the year in the U.S. for more than a couple of times, oftentimes we look at the price and not the quality and performance.
       
  • dianna 8 months ago
     
    ..erratum.. "previous" (mispelled "prevoius).
       
  • brylle 8 months ago
     
    If you still want to get this 2.2 e-RVGT diesel engine
    Better wait for the latest facelift of Kia Sorento 2013 - its almost a twin brother of Hyundai Santa Fe but Kia Sorento is Long Wheel Base (LWB) not like Santa Fe's Short Wheel Base (SWB).

    Pls. check this link.. im sure you will like it..
    http://*****.com/forums/kia-cars-talk-129/2013-kia-sorento-facelift-86747/index3.html
       
    • snoid_zero 8 months ago
       
      2.2 e-RVGT diesel engine has been in the Sorento and in the Gen 2 Santa Fe. why wait for the facelift?

      Sorento and the Santa FE SWB share the same wheelbase at 2,700mm.
      The LWB Santa Fe is at 2,800mm and no Sorento will be released at this wheelbase.
         
    • JoHunter 8 months ago
       
      ugh, no thanks. i hate the sorento. design is sooo boooring...
          1
      • Kyoichi Sudo 8 months ago
         
        Sorry but for me the 2013 Sorento is more attractive and appealing than this 2012 Santa Fe...
           
  • neutral 8 months ago
     
    Hopefully, hyundai could bring the 2.4(gas) or the 2.0 turbo gas so that buyers can really compare the price of sta. fe against rav 4, crv, cx5 and murano. With the gas variants of the sta. fe, we can tell whether the price is too much or still competitive with its japanese rivals. Sta. fe, vera cruz & sorento are the only diesel fed car based suvs aside from european brands(more expensive) offered in our country.
       
    • FanBoy 8 months ago
       
      Yari ka dun kay vgpena. hahaha kita ko discussion nila ni Fernando amorsolo. Sabi ni vgpena, hindi daw magka segment ang RAV4, CRV, CX5 sa Santa Fe hahaha
         
  • priusv6 7 months ago
     
    Kia sorento doesn't have long wheel base. And Santa fe long wheel base model is for US only. Even in Korea there is no long wheel base and gasoline version also not available. Only 2.0 or 2.2 revgt.
       
  • ashek268 8 months ago
     
    H.A.R.I people getting greedy............................
       
    • Feeter Silverster 8 months ago
       
      same engine and transmission, pero 400k ang difference ng 4x2 vs 4x4, WTH!
         
  • ttej123 8 months ago
     
    I think it's way pricey. It should've a 200-250K difference with the Tucson 4x4 crdi. the price should be 1.5M-1.6M. then the high end variant in 1.8M. When the LWB is released here, that's the time you have 1.9M-2.2M range to compete with the Explorer. And what the hell HARI is thinking? Adding 2 additional seats for the SWB which is originally designed only for 5 seats???? Come on! Tinipid niyo na nga ung space, sobrang mahal naman! sana kung LWB ung inooffer niyo e.
       
  • camebeyond 8 months ago
     
    too expensive car.......
       
  • camebeyond 8 months ago
     
    Better get the ford explorer.......
       
  • nicologarcia 8 months ago
     
    Sure, it looks good, yeah. But, the Trailblazer LTZ is here already; fully-loaded @1.688M. Pano ba yan
       
    • Kyoichi Sudo 8 months ago
       
      Its P1,718,888. Hindi po palibhasa Chevy fan ka or Chevy owner ka or impressed ka po sa Trailblazer eh lolokohin mo na po kami in a way na babaguhin mo na ang pricing nya. Lets be honest w/ our comments :)
         
    • dtkiko 8 months ago
       
      Maganda yang Trailblazer, lalo na if indeed totoo ang 470 Nm torque nito.

      Sana lang may manual transmission variant sila as it will attract more variety of buyers.... especially the traditionalist ones.
         
  • nivlem31 8 months ago
     
    pricey
       
  • car.L 8 months ago
     
    prang shorthanded infiti jx.hehe
       
  • ceejhay 8 months ago
     
    i see it in ayala cebu last saturday. red is good.

    but i prefer explorer over this on this price point.
       
  • priusv6 8 months ago
     
    Here is good news.. for all disappointed santa fe buyers. I just heard from Kia, that they will have already the new sorento.. which is face lifted recently.. it just 1.35M for base model. now Kia will kill HARI, The new sorento almost same with this.. new eagle eye LED positioning lamp, new LED tail lamp.. and most of the features are same.. who will buy this santa fe?
       
    • BOOGIECAT 8 months ago
       
      May 5 at 7 seater variants ng 2013 Sorento in LX and EX!May Premium variant na parating din!

      May pumapatol sa 2WD Santa Fe..Kung nasa 1.650M Pesos to eh bibilhin ko yan!
         
  • Kim John 8 months ago
     
    santa fe vs explorer? knock out agad ang santa fe! parang light heavyweight vs featherweight yan. better to get the explorer. hindi reasonable ang price ng santa fe!
       
  • dtkiko 8 months ago
     
    I smell very bullish marketing plans and schemes from all competitors now that Hyundai released the all-new Santa Fe, Kia to release the all-new Sorento, and GM-Chevrolet making the all-new Trailblazer available now in Philippines....

    HUWAAW exciting year. Matira matibay haha!!!!
       
  • tonbest 7 months ago
     
    Ford should thank SF's price tag,,buyers now show interest with explorer,lol
       
  • dmaxred18 7 months ago
     
    dude' nagmumukha syang hyundai Tucson!
       
  • botchifan 7 months ago
     
    wow it's treading on the cx9 and explorers level... tsk tsk
       
  • hunterjob50 7 months ago
     
    The price of the premium variant is insane. I don't see much of a difference with the non-premium except for the sunroof, AWD, side/curtain airbags, and the rear camera. Sana ginawa nalang nilang 100k difference (1.868m) kahit papano siguro fair price. This is way way uncompetitive compared to fort and montero. Unless Hyundai is trying to compete with Ford. I don't know, just my opinion, just saying.
       
  • dmaxred18 7 months ago
     
    Hindi yan magtatagal sa mundo!!,. Bibili nlng ako ng Isuzu, cguradong tatagal pa!
       
  • Deyn Man 7 months ago
     
    yeah, agree... specs might justify the price but i still think it's expensive! probably 1 more model with competitive pricing then perhaps increase the price of the new model ( 2 models from now).
       
  • PanotAko 7 months ago
     
    Kung 5 seater lng eh pucha mag ranger na ako na 3.2 next year. Wala pang 2 million pero 200hp na haha!
       
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