Mitsubishi issues statement on Montero Sport sudden-unintended-acceleration cases

 

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Call it a coincidence, but just mere minutes after the Chief tackled the Mitsubishi Montero Sport sudden acceleration cases in his All Will Drive column, we received Mitsubishi Motors Philippines' official statement on the matter. In a related development, the blogmonteroaccident.blogspot.com has been taken down.

Here is Mitsubishi Motors Philippines' statement in its entirety:

"Mitsubishi Motors Philippines Corporation (MMPC) has received complaints of unintended acceleration on the Montero Sport.

"Upon receiving these complaints on unintended acceleration, Mitsubishi Motors Corporation (MMC) Japan dispatched its engineers last February to investigate the claims. The investigation yielded that all the components (fuel injection system, pedal, engine control unit, wiring harnesses, etc.) and software were operating normally within specifications. MMC will also investigate the latest reported cases of unintended acceleration.

"In addition, we would like to note that the electronic throttle system of the Montero Sport has undergone extensive testing not only during its development but also during mass production to ensure that it will function the way it was designed to.

"If you are a Montero Sport owner and in any way bothered by these 'Montero Sport sudden-acceleration' Internet blogs, you may bring your vehicle to any Mitsubishi service center nationwide for a free checkup. Meantime, we also encourage every owner/driver to read the owner’s manual as there are important reminders on the proper driving procedures, most especially for automatic transmission vehicles.

"MMPC would like to assure the public that every vehicle developed by MMC and its components undergo extensive testing and are of the highest quality level, and that we are committed to your utmost satisfaction and safety."

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  • JoHunter Sep 07 2011 @ 09:48pm
    If there's anyone to blame, it's Primo Mobile for claiming they have master license rights to the brand Toni...

    Um... hey, Comments box teleportation. Far out...
    • Anna Barbara L. Lorenzo Sep 07 2011 @ 09:53pm
      Seriously? Will check. Thanks.
      • JoHunter Sep 07 2011 @ 10:10pm
        I was kidding :) Just happened Mitsubishi releasing an official statement reminded me of the Globe issue and, well, I'm just in one of those moods. Sorry :p
        Last modified Sep 07 2011 @ 10:13pm
  • Jetwash Sep 07 2011 @ 09:56pm
    Owwws? Brinaso siguro yung monteroaccidentblogspot or sinilaw ng pera para tumiklop. There is a problem with the Montero and Mitsubishi has to deal with. If driving is the problem, how come sudden acceleration don't happen to the Santa Fe or Fortuner? Grrrrr. Unfair
    • Giovchan Sep 07 2011 @ 10:32pm
      siyempre iba naman ung mga technology na gamit nila eh and ung mechanival stuff na ginamit
  • Aloha Milkyway Sep 07 2011 @ 10:12pm
    I might get flamed for this but...I'm still skeptical.
  • jaysuarezmd Sep 07 2011 @ 10:19pm
    nakakainis lang yung fact finding committee nila na nagaccelerate dahil sa mat. gaano ba kabigat ang mat nila? sinong niloko ng MMPC? regardless, di lang dapat 80% ang ibabalik nila and di man lang nila sinasagot ang damage na nagawa ng montero.
  • katsikot Sep 07 2011 @ 10:33pm
    Like what VBS says, "Dont believe everything you read.", and that is a really good piece of advice. The now defunct monteroaccident blogspot site might be b*lls*it in itself, it might be a smear campaign by some jealous carmaker, or it might be true, or whatever. This is a free country, to each his/her own. Speculate all you want, but the thing is, don't believe it(the site, if you ever got/get to read it) until you see some hard evidence, until you see some empirical facts, that a Mitsubishi Montero Sport indeed suddenly accelerates. The Montero is really tempting to defame/"smear" because it is the best selling SUV in our country today. I am in no way affiliated with and biased to MMC, MMPC, or whatever, and I do respect and admire the Montero's competition, namely, the Toyota Fortuner and the Ford Everest.
  • Rtyle79 Sep 07 2011 @ 10:35pm
    Human error hands down, this has happened in the past with Toyota USA Camry and put hooks on the mats plus they recalled thousands of units just because of this mat culprit. Regardless of this small flaw, if the driver just has good reflexes or more instances common sense they wouldn't get into this jam to begin with. I've experienced this on my past cars Mercedes & an Altis & custom matting was to be blamed for but in spite of this problem I didn't let it get to me and didn't panic. For most cases of these sudden accelerations in the past due to mistakenly stepping on the gas instead of the brakes, who would admit to the insurance company that it was really their mistake? Human error is to blame for in this event, victims not only to sudden acceleration will take advantage of this just to get a claim.
  • yokam888 Sep 07 2011 @ 10:37pm
    @jetwash walang sudden acceleration problems ang fortuner at sta. fe kasi hindi sila number 1 sa suv sales
    • Jerricson Sep 07 2011 @ 10:46pm
      Being no.1 doesn't even indicate that it does not have that kind of flaw. Yes, probably, they may be no. 1 but, i don't think it is not enough reason for it not having the sudden acceleration. And, as of records, montero sport is still holding on his throne of being no.1 in the segment. To add, the santa fe is not included in the segment since santa fe can be considered a oremium crossover, not for mid size suv. :) Just for everybody's inspection and perusal :)
  • katsikot Sep 07 2011 @ 10:51pm
    @Rtyle79 Agree ako! Speaking of carpet hooks, the Montero Sport has them. Yun lang nga, yung mga free casa mats, walang butas para sa mga hooks.0 seconds ago
    Last modified Sep 07 2011 @ 11:05pm
  • ako_si_bigotilyo Sep 07 2011 @ 11:02pm
    totoo yan, parang isang kakilala ko na mayToyota, may abang na holes for the plastic hook , pero walang nakasama na hooks, pero nakasulat sa manual meron dapat (to Toyota owners, hanapin niyo sa manual, merong ganun entry), at ang free matting wala ring eyelet holes. Pag qinuestion mo sila, sasagot nila? kasi worldwide ang manual. Gagawin kang bobo, sasabihin naman nilang "if equipped" pag di para sa lahat ng countries ang function.
    Last modified Sep 07 2011 @ 11:07pm
  • JoHunter Sep 07 2011 @ 11:48pm
    "Believe none of what you read... half of what you see... and EVERYTHING you write." - Lois Lane
  • ChairmanPineapple Sep 08 2011 @ 12:00am
    for one thing kahit may ganitong news about montero, mabenta parin ito at halos di mo na mabilang ang montero sa kalye. I just really wonder how could cars move when they are in P (park) eh hindi naman ganun ka high tech ang montero (e.g. cruise control etc electronic ..)
    • katsikot Sep 08 2011 @ 10:38pm
      Hindi naman nag suddenly accelerate yung mga Montys(yung mga nasa blogspot) na nasa P(Park) position yung shifter eh. Syempre naka D(drive) yun kaya gumalaw. Hindi naman sobrang primitive yung Montero, it's equipped with a high-pressure common rail fuel delivery system (hence it is managed by a computer box, applies to all models), it utilizes a variable geometry turbocharger for forced induction(applies to VGT equipped models, regular turbo lang yung sa GLS SE, GLX, and GLS), and the engine throttle is modulated by an electronic throttle control system(meaning drive-by-wire sya, pero this is old tech naman na eh).
  • robin_micmac Sep 08 2011 @ 12:21am
    carmats are usually non standard items in cars. try buying a car in the UK. Mattings dont come free..its a dealer installed option and they offer an OEM matt for your car. Dealers in the Philippines are trying to make the deal sweeter by throwing in free matting, free tints etc...but of course dont expect them to put the OEM mats. OEM mats are expensive and if it will be a standard equipment on every car it will cost the manufacturer a lot of money and not all customers would like it so why make it standard. its not the question of 'gaano ba kabigat ung mat?' as it is irrelevant..its about the mats getting jammed in between the pedals. im not saying im buying that excuse on the mats but i can tell you that I have experienced my accelerator pedal getting stuck because of the matting so i will never dismiss that argument as i had a first hand experience with it. Mitsubishi have already released a statement and if you dont buy their excuse then I think its ok as they are not forcing you to buy their Montero Sport anyway and I think there is no point comparing it to its rivals not having the same problem of sudden acceleration. Im not here to defend the Montero but I think drive by wire accelerator pedals are no longer rocket science these days..theyve been on cars for decades now and that means that they have been constantly developed over the years to make sure that they will work in the way that they were intended to be. Fail-safe design has been enforced in these items. If you havent heard of FMEA before, try searching it in google. Just to give you an idea of how car companies develop such parts for cars. If you are thinking that the drive by wire system is at fault here, Mitsubishi examined it and said they found nothing wrong with it..otherwise they will do a recall of all cars affected if there really is a problem.
  • someonespecialisme Sep 08 2011 @ 01:23am
    never say that the carmat argument is plain bull.... i myself experienced that.. its not really about the weight of the mat but the angle of the gas pedal and the placement of the mat.. and most probably, this is just human error... accidentally stepping on the gas (thinking that its brake) and stepping on it again because they thought that it was the brake then accident then they say sudden unintended acceleration
  • rtociv Sep 08 2011 @ 03:19am
    hmmm, i wonder if there was any change in the settlement between those involved kaya the blog site was taken down. mas maganda sana if those involved in the accident would speak out para malaman talaga if there is a cover up going on.
    • nielclark Mar 28 2012 @ 10:01pm
      Meron tv news report, watch in youtube, untv manibela montero sport sudden acceleration. The victims are both doctors living in Cavite.
  • rangx24 Sep 08 2011 @ 06:03am
    kasi mga iba di nag papakabit ng turbo timer
  • AJ_MLPH Sep 08 2011 @ 08:16am
    Their competitors will surely take advanage of this. Parang sa honda lang when they recalled units. Ang kausap ko na SE from other brand biglang tawag sabay convince ulit sa akin na kunin ko nalang product nila at kung ano anong sinabi against honda as if sila hindi nag recall buti nga sa honda preventive measure lang kaya nag recall.
    Last modified Sep 08 2011 @ 08:56am
  • allanski Sep 08 2011 @ 08:36am
    hmmm, but there where 18 accidents recorded, is it possible na 18 human errors yun?
    • macpro Sep 08 2011 @ 08:59am
      Those were 18 claimed incidents sir, none of them were proven. A lot of people claim to be abducted by aliens also.
    • katsikot Sep 08 2011 @ 10:41pm
      Pwede rin namang naki-ride nalang din yung ibang nakabangga ng mga Montero nila eh. Sinisisi siguro nila yung kotse para libre pagawa o kaya palitan ng bago.
  • Jetwash Sep 08 2011 @ 09:09am
    Allanski is correct. People got hurt (physically) the student on the sidewalk who lost a limb, (emotionally) the pharmacist that got nearly rammed inside the botica. Hey, at least Mitsubishi should explain not just TECHNICALLY but as a concerned car manufacturer.

    Sorry Mitsu, you have to convince us more.
  • Vernon B. Sarne
    Vernon B. Sarne Sep 08 2011 @ 09:17am
    @Manny Vivas - If we wait for concrete proof, we may never ever write a piece about this. Your comment is precisely why it's difficult for us to touch issues like this. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.
    • macpro Sep 08 2011 @ 09:33am
      I am sure that a lot more people are happy that you did touch this issue sir. Thank you and more power to Top Gear!
    • francolim1990 Sep 08 2011 @ 02:51pm
      thanks chief, for showing true professionalism. more power to you and to the no. 1 motoring magazine of the Philippines!
    • Kyoichi Sudo Sep 08 2011 @ 05:19pm
      manny vivas was just thinking very far..........
  • reyfin Sep 08 2011 @ 09:42am
    "If you are a Montero Sport owner and in any way bothered by these 'Montero Sport sudden-acceleration' Internet blogs, you may bring your vehicle to any Mitsubishi service center nationwide for a free checkup. Meantime, we also encourage every owner/driver to read the owner’s manual as there are important reminders on the proper driving procedures, most especially for automatic transmission vehicles."

    Ano pa po ba ang di malinaw dito? To all, before we say anything as if WE KNOW EVERYHTING, research po muna kayo. This is not only an issue about Montero, it is also about Sta Fe and other brands. Sudden acceleration problem is common to all new units of today. Base on experience, as most common have experience also, akala mo preno tinatapakan mo yon pala eh accelerator. That is common incidents to all auto tranny. If may aksidente, common din na maghanap ng alibi kesa aminin ang nagawang mali. If you are so affected by this sudden acceleration issue, if meron kang MS,ibenta mo na,if wala pa,wag ka na bumili. Simple as that.
    • Kyoichi Sudo Sep 08 2011 @ 05:20pm
      tama!, dami lng talagang naninira sa mitsu ngayon lalo na sa monty kasi mabenta
  • bananatype Sep 08 2011 @ 10:07am
    Seems like 3 failures of unrelated systems have to occur simultaneously for these accidents to happen as described by some of the bloggers:
    1. Electronic throttle must get stuck to wide open position -- somewhat unlikely since default position is idle when a system fault is detected by the module.
    2. Gearshift linkage must malfunction - the shiftlock feature won't let you shift out of P unless you're stepping on the brake pedal, and most won't even let you yank the key out unless you're in P or N, preventing you from starting the car in D later on.
    3. Brakes must malfunction - modern braking systems can defeat the engine's torque from standstill and crawling speed, we know this because we brake-torque cars equipped w/ AT during acceleration tests and the brakes always win out.
    Pedals getting stuck under badly placed mats plus driver panic are more likely than these 3 failures all happening at once. Just my opinion...
  • macpro Sep 08 2011 @ 10:18am
    In the US, Toyota and Ford has the most number of sudden acceleration incidents among major car manufacturers. After extensive investigation, the US courts ruled that these incidents were indeed caused by driver error and floor mats. Other claims were even found to be fraudulent. There are even cases that it was proven that the brakes were not even applied at all before the impact took place. As a solution to satisfy the worried motorist, some major car manufacturers made a recall with the floor mats and some made adjustments or reshaped the brake and accelerator pedals to further give it better distinction.
  • Regstmbg Sep 08 2011 @ 10:52am
    Good advice if you don't feel safe with montero don't buy. That's why we choose to buy with another maker 2 days ago.
  • Nightdiver Sep 08 2011 @ 11:23am
    I am privileged to avail of the first batch of the Montero GLS-SE way back in 2008. Never had a problem with my unit. Don't just simply believe with what you read.
  • otto_meister Sep 08 2011 @ 11:37am
    "Jetwash2 hours ago
    Allanski is correct. People got hurt (physically) the student on the sidewalk who lost a limb, (emotionally) the pharmacist that got nearly rammed inside the botica. Hey, at least Mitsubishi should explain not just TECHNICALLY but as a concerned car manufacturer.

    Sorry Mitsu, you have to convince us more."

    - The 18 "accidents" you mentioned doesn't necessarily equate to all were caused by the "defect" of the vehicle. Don't conclude without having the TECHNICAL facts to back your claim, sir.

    If you were in a court room, your premise would have been prematurely dismissed by the judge already. This is why pursuing it legally is a dead-end situation for the "aggrieved" party.

    Ever wonder why Mr. Victa made a blog about it? because legally and technically speaking, he has no foothold that is why he pursued media and the public's sympathy.

    If Mitsubishi wasn't concerned at all, they wouldn't even give a sh*t about what happened to their customers. Heck, they wouldn't even fly their Japanese engineers if they didn't want to make sure that this incident be evaluated properly.

    Having a technical investigation and full report is very essential to everyone's reference most specially for Gov't agencies. Whether it satisfies you or not is your own accord.

    If you can't understand the report then this official statement that they provided is essentially a layman's translation of what the MMPC report is all about, plain and simple.

    What is harder to understand this?

    @vbasarne: I believe your position in this situation is correct given that media should be impartial and un-biased.
  • rtociv Sep 08 2011 @ 12:53pm
    well it's hard to dicredit 18 incidents of sudden acceleration... mitsu should have examined all 18 vehicles or better yet allowed an independent body to find the cause of the incidents... mas maniniwala pa ako kung ganun
  • rtociv Sep 08 2011 @ 12:59pm
    @otto meister
    "Ever wonder why Mr. Victa made a blog about it? because legally and technically speaking, he has no foothold that is why he pursued media and the public's sympathy."

    and what would you have him do? going up against a giant company like mitsubishi all alone is overwhelming. mitsubishi would just bury the guy in legal paper work before mag start ang kaso... it would probably take years. but if an ordinary guy sought help para mapansin agad yung kaso, it is to his advantage di ba?
  • otto_meister Sep 08 2011 @ 01:32pm
    @rtociv:

    "and what would you have him do? going up against a giant company like mitsubishi all alone is overwhelming. mitsubishi would just bury the guy in legal paper work before mag start ang kaso... it would probably take years. but if an ordinary guy sought help para mapansin agad yung kaso, it is to his advantage di ba?"

    A legal case is still a legal case, mister.

    Why would I even put myself in his position? There is no point to your logic.

    Mitsubishi has the strong facts, technical that is. He, on the other hand can only tell so much from the memory recall of his dad.

    What i'm trying to say is that he should have consulted and requested assistance of the proper and concerned government agencies like DTI, that's what I would have done if "ever" there was really a case.

    If DTI didn't act on his behalf to sought MMPC, then that's the time that it's going to be UNFAIR.

    I would have even commended Mitsu Phil for acting on the problem in the first place to solve his and probably everyone's problem. Whereas everyone was blinded for the fact that people were throwing claims here and there that you can't even verify yourself.

    The Victa family was even lucky to have their unit bought back by Mitsubishi as to console their grievance. Mitsubishi vehicle owners should even consider themselves lucky because MMPC considers their problems and act on it.

    I rest my case and hopefully everybody else's.
  • Jetwash Sep 08 2011 @ 01:53pm
    It's plain simple, PEOPLE GOT HURT. Mitsubishi has to convince the people more. I for one is NOT CONVINCED at Mitsubishi's official statement.

    In my personal opinion, those affected by the Montero's sudden acceleration should FILE A CLASS SUIT.
    Para magkaalaman na.
    • bruce Sep 09 2011 @ 01:36am
      if they are telling the truth, they should file this, otherwise, people will just say that they only fabricated their stories!
  • someonespecialisme Sep 08 2011 @ 02:05pm
    otto_meister: spoken like a true lawyer sir :)

    sir otto_meister is right.. there is no legal case

    sabi nga sa isang movie: its not what you know, its what you can prove in court...he has no legal case kaya sa blog nalang siya...i feel sorry for him...but those 18 alleged incidents...is it proven or baka naman other companies who just joined the bandwagon....all ive heard is the victa family and 2 incidents in shell la salle..
  • otto_meister Sep 08 2011 @ 02:30pm
    "Jetwash
    It's plain simple, PEOPLE GOT HURT. Mitsubishi has to convince the people more. I for one is NOT CONVINCED at Mitsubishi's official statement."

    Yes, people did got hurt.

    However, is it legally correct to say that the primary cause of these incidents fall on the vehicle or any other merchandise that is of potential hazard? Is it legally correct to automatically blame the manufacturer for a possible misuse and / or wrong operation of that merchandise?

    I believe the answer lies on the owner's manual and adhering to it strictly. In any case, I believe Mitsubishi has already answered and gave an assurance to everyone.

    If you're not satisfied then don't.

    In my personal opinion, those affected by the Montero's sudden acceleration should FILE A CLASS SUIT.
    Para magkaalaman na.

    Again, without REAL TECHNICAL FACTS against the Mitsu Report then there is no case unless DTI has made up a counter statement. Filing a class suit even if they were many? not a good idea.

    You don't have REAL TECHNICAL facts, no case.

    "Masyado lang mahilig ang mga pinoy sa mga sensationalized stories", period.
  • wart_les Sep 08 2011 @ 03:39pm
    (Your thoughts on the article...)
  • wart_les Sep 08 2011 @ 03:41pm
    The case of sudden acceleration is TRUE among all vehicles with high tech sense "Drive by Wire"...Somewhere along the compu CHIPS is not perfected yet...Of course manufacturer disown it because its CHANCES are TOO SLIM yet the possibility to happening is around...
    The latest accident of Air France Air Bus route from Rio Brazil to Paris is an example how COMPUTER management takes it tole...Computer screens indicates of SPEED Stalling even when the aircraft is continuously flying in mid air...The pilot reset-ed and the screens and back to NORMAL then suddenly re appears again...During Pilot training when such situation occurs a must be procedure MUST be observed and done...Unfortunately the Pilot triggers something opposite - of which the AIRCRAFT tilted its nose upward and on this situation PLUNGE to the Indian Ocean so fast 10K feet per minute swirling?..In the END, they say again it's PILOT error...NOBODY accepts on the compu technology mess?
  • lord_cykb24 Sep 08 2011 @ 04:07pm
    shout all you wan but I'm still hooked with 3 diamonds...!!!
    love the Monty and the upcoming MS well another version of hearsay will be posted because I'm sure it would be another hot-like pancake of demands or running in our roads... :)
  • Jetwash Sep 08 2011 @ 04:09pm
    Mr. Otto_Meister kaya nga para MAGKAALAMAN na, the victims should file a CLASS SUIT.

    I am speaking as a concerned consumer. You speak as if PAKAWALA ka ng MItsu. Bear in mind that PEOPLE GOT HURT.
    • someonespecialisme Sep 08 2011 @ 05:33pm
      simpe lang nga kasi yan..just like what otto said..you need facts..you can't just initiate a class suit with mere speculation..that would be dismissed even before it reached the court...baka sa fiscal palang..wala na..dahil walang facts! you need some facts that can somehow show that its POSSIBLE NA MAY CAUSE OF ACTION.
  • otto_meister Sep 08 2011 @ 04:11pm
    "wart_les
    The case of sudden acceleration is TRUE among all vehicles with high tech sense "Drive by Wire"...Somewhere along the compu CHIPS is not perfected yet...Of course manufacturer disown it because its CHANCES are TOO SLIM yet the possibility to happening is around...
    The latest accident of Air France Air Bus route from Rio Brazil to Paris is an example how COMPUTER management takes it tole...Computer screens indicates of SPEED Stalling even when the aircraft is continuously flying in mid air...The pilot reset-ed and the screens and back to NORMAL then suddenly re appears again...During Pilot training when such situation occurs a must be procedure MUST be observed and done...Unfortunately the Pilot triggers something opposite - of which the AIRCRAFT tilted its nose upward and on this situation PLUNGE to the Indian Ocean so fast 10K feet per minute swirling?..In the END, they say again it's PILOT error...NOBODY accepts on the compu technology mess?"

    These type of posts are getting akward by the minute, (actually it's getting fun just seeing the posts of people here just to present a point, how crazier can it be?). :-)

    Come on, let's move on to the next stage and let the DTI conduct a thorough investigation. This way, even skeptics can't complain about bias and impartiality so we can put closure to this "issue".
    • 17Sphynx17 Sep 08 2011 @ 06:17pm
      He actually posted the exact same thing in Sir Vernon's article. What I found odd was he's comparing the chip in montero with apparatus meant to measure wind speed, altitude, pitch etc that are connected to the Autopilot feature of the plane.

      First time I heard of the montero having anything remotely close to something like the autopilot feature of the AirFrance as well as the gauges or meters meant to assist the Autopilot.

      What he fails to understand is that the Autopilot is made to assist, never meant to fly the plane from start to finish. If it was, we wouldn't need pilots in the first place. UAVs still have pilots but not on board the actual vehicle. So there is always human input needed by these vehicles to perform.

      The pilot had training in his resume that was drilled into him to react to the type of stall he was experiencing but he didn't use it, hence PILOT ERROR.

      The gauges may have failed, but I know not all of them and he didn't correct the stall but actually continued to keep the plane in stall position with the nose too high. His mistake led to death of many. It is one of points I think that would really say that the pilots now are too dependent on the equipment and forgetting to fly the plane "manually"
  • otto_meister Sep 08 2011 @ 04:21pm
    "Jetwash
    Mr. Otto_Meister kaya nga para MAGKAALAMAN na, the victims should file a CLASS SUIT.

    I am speaking as a concerned consumer. You speak as if PAKAWALA ka ng MItsu. Bear in mind that PEOPLE GOT HURT."

    I wish they can even pay me with a Montero Sport so I can savor its features, but no.

    Unfortunately, i'm just trying to put sense to people who still have the rationality. Go to ******, even well known and trusted posters like Niky share the same sentiment as I have.

    FACTS, FACTS, FACTS. You have no facts, then please avoid speculating ok?



    • Feeter Silverster Sep 09 2011 @ 12:51pm
      Those pictures aren't facts?
      • otto_meister Sep 09 2011 @ 04:13pm
        Simple case of cause and effect.

        Cause - either human error (driver fault) or machine malfunction.

        Effect - those pictures.

        Required: facts to support their claim that it was machine malfunction, simple.

        Oh by the way, those pictures can even be used as evidence against them if proven human error. A possible homicide if there were fatalities, maybe?

        Remember the 911 call of the policeman with his family? who won in the court and the American technical agencies who investigated? Toyota.

  • scoobydoo Sep 08 2011 @ 04:22pm
    Smear campaign against montero or not, what I can say is: buyers beware.

    On a different note: Since the montero is the carnap SUV of the year, the carnappers can use unintended acceleration as an excuse when running away from the cops. hahaha.
  • wart_les Sep 08 2011 @ 04:42pm
    otto_meister..?
    Don't get HOT and have your brain read the substance of the post and the subject complaint?
    Likely, this will go to COURT if FATAL or KILL of a person will happen in this regard?
    The context should be taken positively by the manufacturer concern NOT the other way around taken like bismirk company product and its reputation?.Mitsubishi is long years since licenced Engine Maker in fact for your INFO some European Engine Maker like WARTSILA if you ever heard the name just got its license from Mitsu?
    My point is not FAR because of the HIGH TECH MESS...as if YOU cannot question the COMPUTER how fast the compute because they are made that way> then am sorry of your convulating minds?
  • Kyoichi Sudo Sep 08 2011 @ 05:23pm
    good one mitsu. for the people who says that the mitsu's statement isn't convincing well sorry, mitsufans would surely hate you, and i'm one of them. There's nothing wrong w/ the statement, if you care for your life and you have a Montero Sport well, have it checked by Mitsu, done
  • 17Sphynx17 Sep 08 2011 @ 05:23pm
    I for one am glad that this has been cleared up because I really think the "unintended acceleration" claim as a faulty design by the manufacturer is all speculation. If there really was, this should have landed it court a long time ago. We are not the only country that has/sells Monteros so I doubt it should only be isolated to the Philippines (as far as I have read/heard). So for me, as an owner, I am not alarmed. Did I hear about the unintended acceleration case before our family bought it, yes.

    Second, unintended acceleration cases are quite a tricky concept. You have two elements, the electronic/automatic element and the human element. I, for one, believe all the claims of unintended acceleration are not because of the "design" of the car itself, hardware or software, but caused by external elements, such as floor mats, human error, and maybe going as far as modified/tampered equipment.

    With regards for the case of unintended acceleration where someone died, I think one of the reason also why they don't want to file a case is one, they are not sure they can prove they are not at fault. If the one behind the wheel was proven to be the one who was actually wrong, he goes to jail for homicide so I don't think the party would risk it.

    Second, media mileage might help his case that's why he created the blog thereby leading to the trial by publicity wherein the rumors are construed as facts because people repeatedly hear or read about it "in the wild" but they are not actual facts/truths.

    Personally, I had an experience where I was so tired from work when I was about to drive home from parking that I ended up depressing the clutch pedal instead of the brake pedal as I removed my parking brake from a sloped parking area. It was a manual as you could have guessed but my first intuition was "Did I lose brake pressure again? (It happened before because the car is more than 10 yrs old)" But i never thought of moving my leg and releasing the clutch for fear that I would make it worse because I was releasing the "brake" pedal which as I am telling you now it is not. Luckily, I snapped out of my dazed mindset and just simply pulled the parking brake again.

    However, I know for a fact that I ended up pressing the gas pedal in an automatic, things would have happened much faster and ended up worse as I was perpendicular to traffic at that time along a busy road.

    What I can fault the Montero for though is specifically one thing, WHY CAN I TURN OFF THE VEHICLE and REMOVE THE CAR KEY WHILE THE CAR IS ENGAGED IN DRIVE?!!!

    I guess that would explain another point why the car wasn't in park/neutral if the car was started while it was in drive then slowly crept forward with the driver shocked (because he is not used to the car immediately moving forward upon starting slammed what he thought was the brakes but was in fact the gas pedal made things worse.)

    I think that's my analysis on the unintended acceleration for the Montero. I would like to ask other Montero owners if they infact have managed to do that with their cars like we have in ours. First time we experienced an auto tranny gearbox that allows to switch the car off and remove to key when the gear lever is not set in park.
    • Kyoichi Sudo Sep 08 2011 @ 05:30pm
      I understand your post & that's a post of a person who thinks good, well done sir.
      • 17Sphynx17 Sep 08 2011 @ 05:38pm
        Thank you sir. After reading it again, I think I need to edit it more for it to be understood more clearly.

        Another point I forgot to make/mention was, did their cases happen with a MT model Montero? If there was a claim of such, it would be a real mind bongling one that would really just scream "DRIVER ERROR".
    • JoHunter Sep 08 2011 @ 08:12pm
      "WHY CAN I TURN OFF THE VEHICLE and REMOVE THE CAR KEY WHILE THE CAR IS ENGAGED IN DRIVE?!!!"

      But you can't start it again without putting the gear into neutral or park.
  • otto_meister Sep 08 2011 @ 05:49pm
    @17Sphynx17: Good read sir.

    Meanwhile, I believe what is more important is that the Montero Sport cannot be started in DRIVE (D) mode. I tried this once in a test drive in MOA during their car exhibit.

    Since the concern is from dead-stop engine-off position which is essentially what most of these "incidents" appeared to experience in relation to the Sudden Acceleration.

    Maybe you can bring your Montero Sport for free checkup in your dealer and ask about your concern, then enlighten us.
    • 17Sphynx17 Sep 08 2011 @ 06:04pm
      Hehe! Didn't want to risk starting in drive an automatic. I always check the gear level first (force of habit from driving a manual). I am too scared I might break something like the gearbox if I did that. But maybe I would.

      It's currently being used by a family member so I can't really test out my hypothesis yet but will let you know, maybe tomorrow morning. =)
      • bruce Sep 09 2011 @ 01:55am
        it won't start! my previous mitsu galant didn't start when i accidentally triggered the key without me knowing it was in D mode! and i thought my battery was weak then. that's an old car and it didn't start so I guess, new mitsu vehicle will not start too.
    • 17Sphynx17 Sep 08 2011 @ 06:07pm
      Oh and I don't think being able to remove the key is a design flaw, more of something that is not normal for me as a driver based on the vehicles I've driven only.

      I would like to know though if there are other vehicles designed that way though, wherein you can switch off and remove the car keys even if not engaged in park.

      Again it's something I noticed and is not "normal" to me as a driver. So it's technically "not in my mountain". first time experience, so something to keep in mind for fellow drivers or owners. =) but again can't be immediately called as a design flaw/issue.
    • 17Sphynx17 Sep 09 2011 @ 09:58am
      It was already out this morning, I'll try again tomorrow and update.
    • kit_mmc Sep 09 2011 @ 09:29pm
      This reminds me of what MMNA's Technical Video on the Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution 10.
  • rtociv Sep 08 2011 @ 06:48pm
    Let's just hope that DTI acts on this and performs their own investigation... if they say that you shouldn't believe everything you read... then you shouldn't also easily fall for mitsubishi's explanation/ statement. Investigations like this should be done by a third party para di biased
    • 17Sphynx17 Sep 08 2011 @ 07:02pm
      That I actually dont understand. Shouldn't it be DOTC or LTO if there were an investigation as it pertains to a vehicle and not just an item for sale?

      Another reason I don't believe, is we are an owner of the Monty with almost 10k mileage. I haven't experienced nor seen any clue whatsoever to say there is unintended automatic acceleration instance, other than it being a driver's error in perception or judgement. =)

      But if they would require an investigation, then I think it should be DOST-DOTC collaboration for these types of cases, in my opinion. =)

  • gundam Sep 09 2011 @ 10:05am
    Kung meron ka strong na evidence or technical facts, di mo kailangan class suit. Kahit siguro magisa ka lang.

    Tama, dapat talaga part ng safety ng a/t ang key. Meron naman ang montero, konti nga lang.

    Read the manual.

    May ibang driver kasi lalo na yung galing sa m/t, pag mag park lagay lang sa Neutral and mag handbrake lang. Dyan na pwede magka problem. Sa invecs 2 ang key ay mag function na same sa park at neutral. Pwede mo kasi start engine from neutral and pull out key when you turn it off.

    One possible driver error: start the engine from Neutral. Pero ang akala mo sa isip mo nasa Park. Gusto mo mag reverse so you pull shiftknob one click back (w/o looking at indicator –it now actually in Drive). Syempre kung reverse tingin ka sa likod (eh malinis). Tapak sa accelerator, ayun na nabanga mo na yung mga nasa front.

    There are many reasons not to buy montero. Pero di kasama yang sudden acceleration.

  • evolution_sport Sep 09 2011 @ 06:53pm
    Since this happened to a friend, even being a Mitsubishi fanboy, I still really think Mitsubishi is hiding something...
    • 17Sphynx17 Sep 09 2011 @ 07:38pm
      Hi sir, my question to this is what did this friend do after? Bring it to the casa to be checked?

      I do not mean to sound as if I am belittling the issue of unintended acceleration, but without knowing the facts, it is all heresay. So pardon me if I am skeptical that it is related to the claim by the blogger.

      What was the situation? Can it be elaborated on? I am a fellow Montero owner so I am also part of the concerned party if this were in fact true. But up to now I still do not see any facts that would lead me to believe that it was in fact a faulty computer chip/program that caused said "unintended acceleration" issue.

      • macpro Sep 10 2011 @ 08:03am
        The answers to your questions would simply lead to more claims and speculation. The whole thing would start over again just like what happened with the blog. If there are indeed victims of such issue, they should just report it to the proper authorities for a fair investigation. Thats what happened in the US with toyota, ford, etc. However, the US courts ruled that the incidents were caused by driver error and fraudulent claims. After that, issue is finished. Just my opinion.
        • nielclark Mar 28 2012 @ 10:03pm
          Meron tv news report, watch in youtube, untv manibela montero sport sudden acceleration. The victims are both doctors living in Cavite.
      • nielclark Mar 28 2012 @ 10:02pm
        Meron tv news report, watch in youtube, untv manibela montero sport sudden acceleration. The victims are both doctors living in Cavite.
      • nielclark Mar 28 2012 @ 10:03pm
        Meron tv news report, watch in youtube, untv manibela montero sport sudden acceleration. The victims are both doctors living in Cavite.
  • 17Sphynx17 Sep 11 2011 @ 10:46pm
    Forgot to mention, it will not started if it is on drive. Not sure about neutral yet. Ill test it another time. Ü
  • jamzv Sep 12 2011 @ 01:05pm
    Really shocked that a lot of people are so non-chalant about this, its safety people! My friend's dad just got into an accident two weeks ago when his Pajero suddenly accelerated, twice hitting a wall, two tricycles, a CRV, and a van. Given that it may be a factory defect and may happen to maybe a tenth of their products, but I wouldnt want to buy a Montero and have this happen to me. For all the skeptics, ganyan din reaction ng pulis nung nagpapagawa ng police report yung tito ko, binibigay nya yung susi para imaneho yung Pajero, biglang kabig hindi na daw kailganan.

    Malakas lang kayo mag-comment kasi walang nangyayari pa sa inyo. Honda rin nga nag-recall, thing is car manufacturer's products no matter the quality can still have a factory defect. Iba lang ang pag-handle yung Honda and Toyota nag-recall ng sasakyan, e Mitsubishi sinisi lang floor mat. Sana nag-check sila at mag-issue din ng recall to correct the transmission.
  • 17Sphynx17 Sep 12 2011 @ 01:56pm
    @jamzv

    It's not about being nonchalant but think of it rationally. They claim there was an unintended acceleration of the vehicle. Think about it for a second.

    One, in order for a vehicle to really move, the transmission must be engaged in Drive (for automatic) or 1st or 2nd gear (for manuals) if you come from a full stop.

    Two, you are assuming already that the surge of the engine was triggered by the compu-box (Regardless of the status of the gearbox being engaged in Drive or in neutral).

    Three, the claims are also stating that the brakes are not working.

    Now from a driver's point of view as a user of vehicles, manual and automatic. You are immediately bypassing the features of what make the car work, meaning user/driver input.

    As with what people are saying (not limited to topgear webpage alone), if the car is in fact in drive and there is a sudden surge, you could always put it in neutral or engage the clutch for a manual (if you really can't move the gear level for some odd mechanical defect).

    Two, as with I have tested, it is not possible to start the car while the transmission in "gear" or drive. As with a manual, if say your car is in first gear when you turn it off, you could choose to bypass that by simply fully depressing the clutch and starting your engine (Again needing user/driver input)

    Three, some have claimed there brakes didn't work at that time of emergency. Now, I am not belittling the situation but how is it the following factors came into play.
    1) the transmission engaged by itself to Drive or first gear without user input
    2) the accelerator was wonky and was reving by itself without user/driver input
    3) that the brakes were not working even though they were fully depressed as claimed by the driver (which is his emergency last ditch effort to save the vehicle - the only claimed user input)

    There are varied hypothesis, I even presented one and I myself tested it to see it my hypothesis was plausible, and it was not.

    Others have stated that it is possible to start the vehicle from neutral gear level position. It may then be possible for the driver to suddenly and erroneously slip the transmission into drive, without pressing the brakes or the shift button (this is a fact that is possible).

    Now it is also possible that someone who has not accustomed himself to the vehicle to mistakenly press the accelerator instead of the brake pedal and vice versa, especially those who have been driving manuals most of their lives and have just upgraded themselves to AT.

    Also, the case where floor mats could be the cause is a valid argument, especially those who do not use OEM mats or put a second layer of matting over the OEM mats. It is not made up and Mitsubishi was not the only one who has said it is possible (Toyota mind you).

    As what some people have mentioned/stated/written, drivers (Regardless of years of experience) should accustom themselves with the car and take the time to read about their newly purchased vehicle. Not just by reading the manual, but also the behavior of the vehicle as it is being driven (low or high speed).

    The learning curve can be slow or fast depending on the type of driver, but time should be taken to accustom yourself with the vehicle, regardless of physical size, engine displacement and sheer power of the vehicle.

    The montero is our first legitimate SUV and when I drove it for the first time, it was the first time I experienced the sudden jerk forward from standstill to forward motion when engaging drive, especially from neutral position. It behaved differently from the Carens. Have I driven bigger? Yes, an Isuzu NKR, L300FB and Hi ace, but each of those vehicles behaved differently which I believe the driver of the said vehicle should accustom himself first with. And that includes seating position/driving position, pedal location, view angles/blind spots first. When in motion, how the vehicle accelerates, hard or soft/gentle, and how the vehicle brakes, hard or gentle.



    • nielclark Mar 28 2012 @ 10:04pm
      Meron tv news report, watch in youtube, untv manibela montero sport sudden acceleration. The victims are both doctors living in Cavite.
      • 17Sphynx17 Mar 28 2012 @ 10:10pm
        being doctors doesn't mean they couldn't have made a mistake. And yes, I did see that on youtube, specifically the manibela segment.

        Still, it doesn't change facts like safety features incorporated into the vehicle itself and that the one behind the wheel operating the car was the driver and not some computer brain to engage the transmission, depress the accelerator and not enable brakes and at the same time disable the safety feature of the vehicle wherein if you press the gas and brake, the computer will cut off power to the engine.

        Since you want to watch youtube, you should also check that out for your enlightenment, given that you are commenting on a sept 2011 article made by me so long ago.

        Cheers!

        And best you read up as well on possible causes with the claim of the driver being unintended acceleration through no fault of his own. This could range from installing non OEM equipment that tamper with compubox etc that relate to how the engine performs, double matting and simply not being used to the vehicles performance and/or pedal design.
    • nielclark Mar 28 2012 @ 10:05pm
      Meron tv news report, watch in youtube, untv manibela montero sport sudden acceleration. The victims are both doctors living in Cavite.
  • rtociv Sep 12 2011 @ 08:59pm
    kaya naman pala... owner eh
  • gundam Sep 12 2011 @ 09:02pm
    Ok ang recall. Pero what do you suggest or think is the problem. followers here may not be the proper authority but maybe someone we know can help. Details… etc

    Diagnose first.

    Ayaw ko naman basta na lang mag recall ng walang proven defect. Once you let the casa open things like engine or a/t ma shorten na ang lifespan nyan at baka maging mas prone pa sa trouble. Wala na kasi yan ng factory quality control.

    Di ko lang alam kung pag ba mag issue ng recall at di mo napagawa eh ma void ba ang warranty.
    Ang tibay ng pajero. Talaga , Pwede pa I drive after hitting those things.
  • art Sep 13 2011 @ 10:01am
    expected naman na yan ang magiging sagot ng mitsu with regards to the issue.sa akin, these are the cons of drive by wire systems. parang mas maganda pa rin yung drive by cable wire :). mas simple. di siya maapektuhan ng kung anu-anong radio/magnetic interference na maaring sumira sa kanya.
  • meowwin Sep 13 2011 @ 01:37pm
    Kung Sakaling Maranasan nyo ang Sudden acceleration sa sasakyan nyo, eto ang gawin nyo.

    For Drive By wire:
    1. Ilagay sa NUETRAL, I-drive sa gilid at itabi.
    (wag papatayin ang makina dahil mawawala ang Power Steering at hihina ang breaking)



    For Drive by Cable Wire:
    1.Nag stuck ang Gas pedal, Angatin mo hanggang bumalik sa dati. Ilagay sa NUETRAL, itabi ang sasakyan.


    Here's a Link
    http://www.youtube.com/user/scottykilmer#p/u/37/FeWO0QefnSI
  • meowwin Sep 13 2011 @ 01:39pm
    OR search thru youtube

    Unintended Acceleration--The Truth

    From: scottykilmer
  • macpro Sep 13 2011 @ 05:17pm
    What you dont understand, frightens you. That is a fact of life. Imagine, pati pajero nadamay na. hehehe. Ano susunod? Ghost inside the cabin? Here, a link to santa fe thread regarding the same issue. http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f1f4e72/0

    Nakakasawa na kasi puro mitsubishi nalang eh, para new issue naman.
  • jspjhu1 Nov 12 2011 @ 05:24pm
    http://suddenacceleration.com/

    Mitsus' resposibilty to look into this matter kung may mga owner ng Montero na may claim na ganito. As a prospective buyer ng Montero, karapatan ko rin malaman ang totoo sa likod ng isyu na ito. Buhay at ariarian kasi ang nakataya.

    It's technically difficult to be validated and proven by Montero owners and also DTI cannot act on any claim that cannot be substantiated by facts.

    So,let us wait and see for now with regards to this issue on sudden acceleration.
    • nielclark Mar 28 2012 @ 10:06pm
      Meron tv news report, watch in youtube, untv manibela montero sport sudden acceleration. The victims are both doctors living in Cavite.
      • 17Sphynx17 Mar 28 2012 @ 10:21pm
        stop spamming comments, especially on old comments on old articles. Best you read up to update yourself and not rely on old "news". Enlighten yourself as well. Look at the other end of the spectrum.
  • dveight Nov 29 2011 @ 08:38am
  • nielclark Mar 28 2012 @ 10:02pm
    Meron tv news report, watch in youtube, untv manibela montero sport sudden acceleration. The victims are both doctors living in Cavite.
  • esszee Aug 24 2012 @ 02:39am
    The unintended or sudden acceleration happened in our 2011 Montero sports not once or twice but 3 times! on different places and I was inside that car when it happened, the first incident was on my dad, when my dad shifts to reverse because we parked facing the wall and suddenly we heard the engine rev up and its sound was terrible after that the car just took off for about 80kph in reverse taking us 20feet from the wall, crushing into another wall. my dad said he was surely stepping on the brakes and not on the gas. It happened also with my mom on the same montero going out in our garage but my mom luckily pulled the handbrakes stopping the car.

    and this link shows the fact that its not the drivers error
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyKxuVfTlN0
  • AnjiJubei Aug 28 2013 @ 02:27pm
    must be a conspiracy to destroy the image on Mitsu then... they do have powerful competitors
  • CapitoMapfre 4 weeks ago
    I think this happens to all car brands. Honda even had to recall hundreds of their units due to defects. It’s terrifying because our safety is the main issue here. I remember my eldest son had an accident going home in Alabang. Thanks God it’s nothing serious but his car- Ford Vios--got damaged in the trunk. After that incident, my husband decided to have car insurance at Mapfre Insular insurance. I applied my two sons and my husband; no need for me because I don’t drive (and because I’m not allowed to). I’m just really after their safety and financial security as well.
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