Toyota 86 chief engineer says there are 2 more sports cars coming

By Vernon B. Sarne
 

Tetsuya Tada

We sat down with Toyota 86 chief engineer Tetsuya Tada during an international media event for the groundbreaking compact RWD sports car, and he shared with us some of his company's future product plans. According to Tada, the 86 is just the first of three sports cars that Toyota is planning to roll out, and that the 86 is the middle of the two in terms of market positioning.

"The first is more mass-market and cheaper than the 86," Tada revealed. "And the third is more upmarket than the 86."

When asked if the higher-end sports car is the successor to the Supra, Tada said it could possibly be but that nothing is sure yet since his team is still in the process of conceptualizing the two other Toyota sports cars. He also noted that it takes five years to develop a sports car from conceptualization to production, as compared with the three years it normally takes to develop a regular vehicle.

Prior to the 86, Toyota's last sports car in production was the MR-S.

If you had a choice, which Toyota sports car would you like to be revived? Take our poll.

 

Which Toyota sports car would you like to be revived?

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  • someonespecialisme Oct 09 2012 @ 03:43pm
    i bet the supra would be revived and the other one would have a new name
  • agent_ysann Oct 09 2012 @ 03:50pm
    Toyota filed with the US patent and trademark office for "Supra" name on the 16th of July 2010, so i guess Supra is coming soon...
  • d.lake Oct 09 2012 @ 04:07pm
    i think supra will be the other one. iconic yan e
  • robin_micmac Oct 09 2012 @ 04:26pm
    Celica or Supra. Both iconic cars. I have a feeling though that it could well be a Celica as its got a lot of racing pedigree and brought a lot of race wins for Toyota
  • jelenajoakim Oct 09 2012 @ 04:29pm
    a sports car that's more affordable than the 86.. hmm.. can't wait..
  • neutral Oct 09 2012 @ 04:35pm
    If it will team up with BMW then I like the "M" R2 or "M" R-S but if it is with Subaru then its the "SU"-pra.
  • meloster Oct 09 2012 @ 04:52pm
    Wake up NISSAN this is happening.
    • Stephmeister101 Oct 09 2012 @ 05:17pm
      They don't need to. They're the reason why other japs are struggling to make new sports cars. They made the best and affordable super car in the world since then all other japs are trying to make one. None has succeeded in beating the GOdzilla... (LFA's downside is it's too expensive and not a daily driver)
    • GotToRead Oct 09 2012 @ 10:07pm
      They're already on it, it's a 1.6L turbo engine. According to reports it will be 190-200 HP and the platform is based on the Juke :)
      • daryyyl Oct 10 2012 @ 02:26pm
        Really? That's one mean machine.
        • GotToRead Oct 11 2012 @ 12:28am
          Yeah but possible plans are: It will be available in FWD and AWD but I think this is subject to change because it will be a direct competitor to the 86/BRZ.
      • Stephmeister101 Oct 10 2012 @ 04:10pm
        They're going to make a mini z, motortrend made a video about it
        • GotToRead Oct 11 2012 @ 12:21am
          yes. It is dubbed as the Mini Z :) I'm really looking forward to it
          • daryyyl Oct 11 2012 @ 05:59am
            Godzilla's son? Hahahaha. I hope graduate na ako kapag dinala sa Pinas yan.
            • GotToRead Oct 11 2012 @ 10:33am
              More like 370z's little bro :)
  • fortis Oct 09 2012 @ 06:03pm
    Hello MItsubishi!!! Are you reading this??? Please revive the FTO, Eclipse and the 3000GT before its too late!!!
    • GotToRead Oct 09 2012 @ 10:08pm
      Mitsubishi is too busy....their EV's and Hybrids are their priority.
      • kit_mmc Oct 09 2012 @ 11:25pm
        Yeah they are busy on a new drivetrain & a new view but we don't know, maybe they are developing a sports car that is parallel to their current developments. ;)
        • GotToRead Oct 09 2012 @ 11:28pm
          Maybe? The upcoming EVO XI will be a hybrid according to rumors. And I doubt that they'll revive a performance car soon, maybe 10 years from now?
          • fortis Oct 10 2012 @ 12:10pm
            Their EV plans is getting them nowhere. They should produce sporty cars now before its too late. This point in time could be the last hurrah for affordable gas fed pocket rockets. Hyundai is on it, so is Toyota.
            • GotToRead Oct 10 2012 @ 01:17pm
              Agreed, a hybrid EVO XI is a disgrace, a part of a hardcore EVO will die if it will be a hybrid. Ruining their own halo car is the worst move Mitsubishi will do if the rumors are true, why can't they just bring back their old glory and take with them Honda, Honda is on a pile of sh*t right now.
              • fortis Oct 10 2012 @ 02:05pm
                It seems the only Honda that is a Honda is the Fit/Jazz. The Civic has up-sized, bulky, and camry-like. The City is a small executive car. Honda needs to bring back their small, light, nimble and fast cars. SiR? Type R?
                • GotToRead Oct 11 2012 @ 12:50am
                  Agreed, and they have to work on their design, their corporate design sucks as hell.
              • someonespecialisme Oct 10 2012 @ 02:31pm
                well honda is actually going back to also sporty cars..only mitsu is forgoing sportiness infavor of boring EVs... nagkataon lang that honda markets their cars in the country in a luxury form but deep inside, they still have revvv-hungry engines....they just failed with the current civic (intentionally because of wrong interpretation of the market) the new accord is going sporty again...
                based on rumors, nissan is planning to get in on the game again with maybe a silvia
                • GotToRead Oct 11 2012 @ 12:37am
                  Agreed, I'm really looking forward to the emergency refresh of the Civic next year, I don't really like their design language right now, I want the old Honda. The only thing that holds Honda together now is their engine, you can't really doubt about a Honda engine. Reliable and their performance is superb.

                  About the Nissan rumor your "half correct" about it, the revival of the Silvia is dropped in 2008 during the American recession but they are currently developing a sports car based on the Juke, they'll incorporate its platform and engine this will result to cut of cost (hoping that it will be priced under GT 86). Dubbed as the "Mini Z", reportedly, it will have a 1.6L turbocharged engine that can produce 190-200 HP available in FWD and AWD ( I think this is subject to change?) this will a direct competitor to GT 86 and Subaru BRZ.
    • kit_mmc Oct 09 2012 @ 11:23pm
      Add the Starion for the RWD. :D
  • xxgrendel Oct 09 2012 @ 06:27pm
    I'd get a Supra if im a serious street racer or a JDM Tuner by heart. so much power for this RWD car which is prone to oversteer. (Front Engine Rear Drive)
    Meanwhile i'd get a Celica if i want a sporty look mass production car much like the Eclipse. (Front Engine Front Drive)
    And just maybe get an MR2 if i want a Sports car(medyo mahal siguro to (Mid Engine Rear Drive).

    Wala na bang Toyota Altezza para sa Pinas or kahit Toyota RSC na lang hehe.
  • car_mac Oct 09 2012 @ 07:03pm
    I am starting to miss the Integra
  • GotToRead Oct 09 2012 @ 10:07pm
    Let's wait for another 10-15 years for these cars :) hopefully maganda na trabaho ko nun hahaha!
  • aeronTGco Oct 09 2012 @ 11:09pm
    Bring it on! MR-S and Celica! If possible, also make something to compete with Nissan's GT-R, if possible.
  • Cessar Oct 09 2012 @ 11:28pm
    Toyota should bring back the 2000GT. That is a sure winner!!!!!
  • Kim John Oct 10 2012 @ 01:24am
    SUPRA YAN! Wala sila pantapat sa GT R pero parang its too late na. better late than nothing dba mga dre?
  • one.edchelle Oct 10 2012 @ 09:10am
    yeah, like what McLaren did to the F1, but sana hindi baguhin yung pangalan, dapat Supra pa din, tulad nang ginawa nang Aston Martin, sa Vanquish
  • snoid_zero Oct 10 2012 @ 09:11am
    nice jacket...commercially available ba yan?
  • torquebender Oct 10 2012 @ 11:00am
    supra to compete with GTR
  • aeronTGco Oct 10 2012 @ 12:54pm
    I think it's time for me to start saving now, so that I could afford this collection; the 86, the more mass-market and cheaper version, and the more upmarket version. I want them all 3!
  • reggie_arki Oct 10 2012 @ 02:31pm
    gt 86 toyota-subaru engine boxer
  • Stephmeister101 Oct 10 2012 @ 04:12pm
    The supra was once a legend, like how people see the GT-R today. They should revive the legendary Supra once again
  • isaac3654 Oct 10 2012 @ 04:45pm
    Honda, are you hearing this? Release the NSX soon! Concept car looks good, and it may be a good competitor for the Supra, and for the Celica, I think the CR-Z is a perfect rival, and if that "higher-end" sports car is a GT (luxurious yet sporty) like the Genesis Coupe, but has a better driving experience, then Akio Toyoda, you are awesome!
    • isaac3654 Oct 10 2012 @ 04:47pm
      Or Celica rival would be the Integra/RSX! I miss that! :[[ I miss listening to that high-revving K20.
    • GotToRead Oct 11 2012 @ 12:47am
      They will release the NSX's successor soon and as far as I remember it will be Honda's first mid-engined car and it will be called Acura NSX. Accodring to reports it will be fitted with 3.5L V6 engine and it will be a hybrid. With this powertrain and that Acura badge this will be a very expensive car. Hope is not lost! I'd say revive the Integra or S2000.
  • dtkiko Oct 10 2012 @ 06:37pm
    Lahat ng yan! Toyota Celica, MR2 and Supra!

    Walang tulak, puros kabig!
  • aeronTGco Oct 10 2012 @ 11:39pm
    Is it true that the Toyota 86 has engine idle problem?!?
    • GotToRead Oct 11 2012 @ 12:48am
      Apparently, there are reports about this. The problem is on the car's ECU.
  • JoHunter Oct 11 2012 @ 01:13am
    SUPRA. No contest. No brainer.
  • carwiki Oct 12 2012 @ 09:13pm
    MR-S FTW! Kayang kaya patalbugin nyan ang mga Port Irene imported MR-Ss. Hehehe...
    • carwiki Oct 12 2012 @ 09:14pm
      Patalbugin means kayang -kayang talunin in terms of sales.
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